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Mike Romain 05-11-2005 09:00 AM

Re: CJ starting problems
 
I think my tires are killing the hubs. The 33x9.5 BFG muds just don't
spin so put amazing amounts of torque on the hubs and engine mounts.
Especially when I am alternating between ice pans and mud on the
trails. Did 70 miles on ice and dirt before the last one exploded 1/4
mile from the destination.... Had to winch it or fix it in the dark. I
winched it and fixed it next day.

I am almost afraid to put really strong hubs in there. I don't want to
find out what the next weakest link is......

Mike

Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:427D2BBD.4F75C6D1@sympatico.ca...
> > You sure could be describing flaky connections on the solenoid on the
> > fender... That solenoid needs a clean ground too.
> >
> > Good luck, we are heading off for 4 days camping in a couple minutes. I
> > blew another hub 2 weeks ago so am on the last spare part you sent me
> > now... Gotta go warn hubs, one is already.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> >>
> >> Here's the story, bare with me, 81 CJ7, starter died about 2 months
> >> ago,
> >> went and got a rebuilt, installed it, but about every 3rd to 5th time it
> >> wouldn't start, just go err, turn key back try again and it would work,
> >> only
> >> had it on the road for about a month, not my daily driver so probably 20
> >> starts, and 5 to 7 no starts. Just had a new engine put in, re-manned,
> >> 258,
> >> starter wont start it, well I shouldn't say that, will now start every
> >> 5th
> >> time. Engine place said don't use it and get a new starter, they checked
> >> all
> >> electrical, no problem, checked starter and said starter was shot, place
> >> I
> >> got starter from tested it, said nothing wrong, but I got new one anyway,
> >> still no start, I can see were it is taking off corners of flywheel so
> >> don't
> >> want to try anymore. First remanned starter was a Champion, second one
> >> Bosch. Any ideas from anyone? Looks to me like starter gear is not going
> >> far
> >> enough out to engage flywheel. These things aren't rocket science so I
> >> don't
> >> realy know what to do. When I got second starter I asked if there were
> >> different starters for different years, he checked, something like 77 to
> >> 86
> >> all the same, so no luck there. If it just happened after engine swap I
> >> would say something wrong there, but it was like that before.


Mike Romain 05-11-2005 09:27 AM

Re: CJ starting problems
 
Lol! Yup, things like that with high traction 33x9.5 mud tires and
well.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> http://www.----------.com/mikeTwistJeep.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Greg wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> > solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> > starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> > right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> > On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?


Mike Romain 05-11-2005 09:27 AM

Re: CJ starting problems
 
Lol! Yup, things like that with high traction 33x9.5 mud tires and
well.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> http://www.----------.com/mikeTwistJeep.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Greg wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> > solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> > starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> > right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> > On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?


Mike Romain 05-11-2005 09:27 AM

Re: CJ starting problems
 
Lol! Yup, things like that with high traction 33x9.5 mud tires and
well.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> http://www.----------.com/mikeTwistJeep.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Greg wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> > solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> > starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> > right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> > On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?


Mike Romain 05-11-2005 09:27 AM

Re: CJ starting problems
 
Lol! Yup, things like that with high traction 33x9.5 mud tires and
well.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> http://www.----------.com/mikeTwistJeep.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Greg wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, after I posted I did a little googleing, and sure enough, post on
> > solenoid was corroded. Googleing came up with a sight saying that when a
> > starter goes it corrodes that post from heat build up, so thanks, you were
> > right, just 10 minutes too slow :).
> > On a side note, what the hell are you doing to those hubs?


Steve 05-11-2005 12:52 PM

Re: CJ starting problems
 
Probably your 5-260x axle joints.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I am almost afraid to put really strong hubs in there. I don't want to
> find out what the next weakest link is......
>
> Mike


Steve 05-11-2005 12:52 PM

Re: CJ starting problems
 
Probably your 5-260x axle joints.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I am almost afraid to put really strong hubs in there. I don't want to
> find out what the next weakest link is......
>
> Mike


Steve 05-11-2005 12:52 PM

Re: CJ starting problems
 
Probably your 5-260x axle joints.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I am almost afraid to put really strong hubs in there. I don't want to
> find out what the next weakest link is......
>
> Mike


Steve 05-11-2005 12:52 PM

Re: CJ starting problems
 
Probably your 5-260x axle joints.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

Mike Romain wrote:
>
> I am almost afraid to put really strong hubs in there. I don't want to
> find out what the next weakest link is......
>
> Mike


Dave Milne 05-11-2005 02:54 PM

Re: CJ starting problems
 
Warn make "hub fuses". Has anyone used them ?

http://www.warn.com/truck/axles/hub_fuse.shtml

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:428201F8.7BF8B396@sympatico.ca...
> I think my tires are killing the hubs. The 33x9.5 BFG muds just don't
> spin so put amazing amounts of torque on the hubs and engine mounts.
> Especially when I am alternating between ice pans and mud on the
> trails. Did 70 miles on ice and dirt before the last one exploded 1/4
> mile from the destination.... Had to winch it or fix it in the dark. I
> winched it and fixed it next day.
>
> I am almost afraid to put really strong hubs in there. I don't want to
> find out what the next weakest link is......
>
> Mike





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