Re: Cherokee fuel pump
 

In Ontario we are swimming in a salt bath all winter.
Studded tires are forbidden.

DougW wrote:
> Bret Ludwig did pass the time by typing:
>
>>I've never understood why Canada does not require the use of stainless
>>AN bolts and fittings on the underside of cars sold there.
>
>
> I noticed they don't use that much salt. Fairly much things get frozen and
> stay frozen. Last time I was there (Calgary) all they were using was sand,
> and the everpresent snow plows. In the winter lots of folks use studded
> snow tires.
>

Re: Cherokee fuel pump
 

In Ontario we are swimming in a salt bath all winter.
Studded tires are forbidden.

DougW wrote:
> Bret Ludwig did pass the time by typing:
>
>>I've never understood why Canada does not require the use of stainless
>>AN bolts and fittings on the underside of cars sold there.
>
>
> I noticed they don't use that much salt. Fairly much things get frozen and
> stay frozen. Last time I was there (Calgary) all they were using was sand,
> and the everpresent snow plows. In the winter lots of folks use studded
> snow tires.
>

Re: Cherokee fuel pump (sand, snow, salt & rust)
 

Yep, in the prairies and the north the sustained cold temperatures make
salt pretty much useless except as a 5% additive to the sand to keep it
from clumping. The nice thing about the constant cold is that freezing
rain is uncommon and the snow rarely melts and refreezes to form
treacherous glare ice. Hard packed snow with a dusting of traction sand
makes a surprisingly effective road surface.

Here in the south east (southern Ontario/Quebec & Atlantic coast),
sanding can't keep up with the freeze/thaw cycle so salt is the weapon
of choice. It was recently listed as an environmentally toxic substance.
I've seen it kill pine trees, cranberry bogs and trout streams. The
economic damage due to rusted vehicles is huge and the corrosive damage
to concrete & steel in bridges, roads, and buildings is incalculable.
Still, it saves countless lives and is orders of magnitude cheaper than
less damaging alternatives, so we're stuck with it for now.

Instead of mandating stainless steel fittings, we could do away with
salt completely and cut the plowing budget in half by requiring 4
studded snow tires during winter months (the idiots running
'all-seasons' cause most of the mayhem), provide mandatory winter
driving education and testing, and of course prohibit all passenger
vehicles except lifted Jeeps when the snow starts to fly:

http://xjeep.dyndns.org/index08.jpg

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

DougW wrote:
> Bret Ludwig did pass the time by typing:
>
>>I've never understood why Canada does not require the use of stainless
>>AN bolts and fittings on the underside of cars sold there.
>
>
> I noticed they don't use that much salt. Fairly much things get frozen and
> stay frozen. Last time I was there (Calgary) all they were using was sand,
> and the everpresent snow plows. In the winter lots of folks use studded
> snow tires.
>

Re: Cherokee fuel pump (sand, snow, salt & rust)
 

Yep, in the prairies and the north the sustained cold temperatures make
salt pretty much useless except as a 5% additive to the sand to keep it
from clumping. The nice thing about the constant cold is that freezing
rain is uncommon and the snow rarely melts and refreezes to form
treacherous glare ice. Hard packed snow with a dusting of traction sand
makes a surprisingly effective road surface.

Here in the south east (southern Ontario/Quebec & Atlantic coast),
sanding can't keep up with the freeze/thaw cycle so salt is the weapon
of choice. It was recently listed as an environmentally toxic substance.
I've seen it kill pine trees, cranberry bogs and trout streams. The
economic damage due to rusted vehicles is huge and the corrosive damage
to concrete & steel in bridges, roads, and buildings is incalculable.
Still, it saves countless lives and is orders of magnitude cheaper than
less damaging alternatives, so we're stuck with it for now.

Instead of mandating stainless steel fittings, we could do away with
salt completely and cut the plowing budget in half by requiring 4
studded snow tires during winter months (the idiots running
'all-seasons' cause most of the mayhem), provide mandatory winter
driving education and testing, and of course prohibit all passenger
vehicles except lifted Jeeps when the snow starts to fly:

http://xjeep.dyndns.org/index08.jpg

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

DougW wrote:
> Bret Ludwig did pass the time by typing:
>
>>I've never understood why Canada does not require the use of stainless
>>AN bolts and fittings on the underside of cars sold there.
>
>
> I noticed they don't use that much salt. Fairly much things get frozen and
> stay frozen. Last time I was there (Calgary) all they were using was sand,
> and the everpresent snow plows. In the winter lots of folks use studded
> snow tires.
>

Re: Cherokee fuel pump (sand, snow, salt & rust)
 

Yep, in the prairies and the north the sustained cold temperatures make
salt pretty much useless except as a 5% additive to the sand to keep it
from clumping. The nice thing about the constant cold is that freezing
rain is uncommon and the snow rarely melts and refreezes to form
treacherous glare ice. Hard packed snow with a dusting of traction sand
makes a surprisingly effective road surface.

Here in the south east (southern Ontario/Quebec & Atlantic coast),
sanding can't keep up with the freeze/thaw cycle so salt is the weapon
of choice. It was recently listed as an environmentally toxic substance.
I've seen it kill pine trees, cranberry bogs and trout streams. The
economic damage due to rusted vehicles is huge and the corrosive damage
to concrete & steel in bridges, roads, and buildings is incalculable.
Still, it saves countless lives and is orders of magnitude cheaper than
less damaging alternatives, so we're stuck with it for now.

Instead of mandating stainless steel fittings, we could do away with
salt completely and cut the plowing budget in half by requiring 4
studded snow tires during winter months (the idiots running
'all-seasons' cause most of the mayhem), provide mandatory winter
driving education and testing, and of course prohibit all passenger
vehicles except lifted Jeeps when the snow starts to fly:

http://xjeep.dyndns.org/index08.jpg

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

DougW wrote:
> Bret Ludwig did pass the time by typing:
>
>>I've never understood why Canada does not require the use of stainless
>>AN bolts and fittings on the underside of cars sold there.
>
>
> I noticed they don't use that much salt. Fairly much things get frozen and
> stay frozen. Last time I was there (Calgary) all they were using was sand,
> and the everpresent snow plows. In the winter lots of folks use studded
> snow tires.
>

Re: Cherokee fuel pump (sand, snow, salt & rust)
 

Yeah, but... Come thaw time that makes for some of the damnedest
pothole you ever saw, at least until the whole snowpack melts. Talk
about tooth jarring rides!

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:22:23 UTC Steve <steve@xjeep.dyndns.org> wrote:

> Yep, in the prairies and the north the sustained cold temperatures make
> salt pretty much useless except as a 5% additive to the sand to keep it
> from clumping. The nice thing about the constant cold is that freezing
> rain is uncommon and the snow rarely melts and refreezes to form
> treacherous glare ice. Hard packed snow with a dusting of traction sand
> makes a surprisingly effective road surface.
>


--
Will Honea

Re: Cherokee fuel pump (sand, snow, salt & rust)
 

Yeah, but... Come thaw time that makes for some of the damnedest
pothole you ever saw, at least until the whole snowpack melts. Talk
about tooth jarring rides!

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:22:23 UTC Steve <steve@xjeep.dyndns.org> wrote:

> Yep, in the prairies and the north the sustained cold temperatures make
> salt pretty much useless except as a 5% additive to the sand to keep it
> from clumping. The nice thing about the constant cold is that freezing
> rain is uncommon and the snow rarely melts and refreezes to form
> treacherous glare ice. Hard packed snow with a dusting of traction sand
> makes a surprisingly effective road surface.
>


--
Will Honea

Re: Cherokee fuel pump (sand, snow, salt & rust)
 

Yeah, but... Come thaw time that makes for some of the damnedest
pothole you ever saw, at least until the whole snowpack melts. Talk
about tooth jarring rides!

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:22:23 UTC Steve <steve@xjeep.dyndns.org> wrote:

> Yep, in the prairies and the north the sustained cold temperatures make
> salt pretty much useless except as a 5% additive to the sand to keep it
> from clumping. The nice thing about the constant cold is that freezing
> rain is uncommon and the snow rarely melts and refreezes to form
> treacherous glare ice. Hard packed snow with a dusting of traction sand
> makes a surprisingly effective road surface.
>


--
Will Honea

Re: Cherokee fuel pump (sand, snow, salt & rust)
 

They are spring snappers for sure!

It does mess with peoples mind when you casually mention still being
able to drive at 60+ mph on the snow highways or that grandma drives
that fast too. LOL!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Will Honea wrote:
>
> Yeah, but... Come thaw time that makes for some of the damnedest
> pothole you ever saw, at least until the whole snowpack melts. Talk
> about tooth jarring rides!
>
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:22:23 UTC Steve <steve@xjeep.dyndns.org> wrote:
>
> > Yep, in the prairies and the north the sustained cold temperatures make
> > salt pretty much useless except as a 5% additive to the sand to keep it
> > from clumping. The nice thing about the constant cold is that freezing
> > rain is uncommon and the snow rarely melts and refreezes to form
> > treacherous glare ice. Hard packed snow with a dusting of traction sand
> > makes a surprisingly effective road surface.
> >
>
> --
> Will Honea

Re: Cherokee fuel pump (sand, snow, salt & rust)
 

They are spring snappers for sure!

It does mess with peoples mind when you casually mention still being
able to drive at 60+ mph on the snow highways or that grandma drives
that fast too. LOL!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Will Honea wrote:
>
> Yeah, but... Come thaw time that makes for some of the damnedest
> pothole you ever saw, at least until the whole snowpack melts. Talk
> about tooth jarring rides!
>
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 16:22:23 UTC Steve <steve@xjeep.dyndns.org> wrote:
>
> > Yep, in the prairies and the north the sustained cold temperatures make
> > salt pretty much useless except as a 5% additive to the sand to keep it
> > from clumping. The nice thing about the constant cold is that freezing
> > rain is uncommon and the snow rarely melts and refreezes to form
> > treacherous glare ice. Hard packed snow with a dusting of traction sand
> > makes a surprisingly effective road surface.
> >
>
> --
> Will Honea