Cherokee Fixin' - U joints
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Cherokee Fixin' - U joints
Vehicle in question is my 89 Cherokee Pioneer 4.0 5spd manual.
While greasing the front u-joint on the front driveshaft, I managed to break
the grease nipple out of the joint. It's been this way for about a month. I
want to replace the joint. I have heard that I should replace all(3?) the
joints on the front driveshaft.
I've never done u-joints before but I'd like to learn. I have a 4" vice and
air tools. What steps do I need to take to replace all three joints? (Hoping
for a detailed step by step! [Bill!]). Will I need a shop to press parts in
and out?
Can I remove the front driveshaft, drive to work w/the front driveshaft
disconnected, have the pressing done after work and then re-install? (I'm
planning to do this on Sunday, no one is open on Sunday with a press that I
know of).
Does it matter which brand of joint I buy?
Anything else I should be doing while I've got the driveshaft off?
Any other tips?
Thanks,
Carl
While greasing the front u-joint on the front driveshaft, I managed to break
the grease nipple out of the joint. It's been this way for about a month. I
want to replace the joint. I have heard that I should replace all(3?) the
joints on the front driveshaft.
I've never done u-joints before but I'd like to learn. I have a 4" vice and
air tools. What steps do I need to take to replace all three joints? (Hoping
for a detailed step by step! [Bill!]). Will I need a shop to press parts in
and out?
Can I remove the front driveshaft, drive to work w/the front driveshaft
disconnected, have the pressing done after work and then re-install? (I'm
planning to do this on Sunday, no one is open on Sunday with a press that I
know of).
Does it matter which brand of joint I buy?
Anything else I should be doing while I've got the driveshaft off?
Any other tips?
Thanks,
Carl
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Re: Cherokee Fixin' - U joints
Hi Carl,
Take a chalk and/or center punch to mark their alignment to insure
you retain the driveshaft's balance and timing. I remove the zerk for
clearance and to allow grease to escape as I put a dab of grease in each
cup on assembly, so as not to pump air into the star:
http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwrit...t/ujoint-1.htm Just add a
dab of grease to the constant velocity Universal Joint's centering
bearing, as it apart of the yoke and can not be disassembled:
http://www.----------.com/CVJoint.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Vehicle in question is my 89 Cherokee Pioneer 4.0 5spd manual.
>
> While greasing the front u-joint on the front driveshaft, I managed to break
> the grease nipple out of the joint. It's been this way for about a month. I
> want to replace the joint. I have heard that I should replace all(3?) the
> joints on the front driveshaft.
>
> I've never done u-joints before but I'd like to learn. I have a 4" vice and
> air tools. What steps do I need to take to replace all three joints? (Hoping
> for a detailed step by step! [Bill!]). Will I need a shop to press parts in
> and out?
>
> Can I remove the front driveshaft, drive to work w/the front driveshaft
> disconnected, have the pressing done after work and then re-install? (I'm
> planning to do this on Sunday, no one is open on Sunday with a press that I
> know of).
>
> Does it matter which brand of joint I buy?
>
> Anything else I should be doing while I've got the driveshaft off?
>
> Any other tips?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
Take a chalk and/or center punch to mark their alignment to insure
you retain the driveshaft's balance and timing. I remove the zerk for
clearance and to allow grease to escape as I put a dab of grease in each
cup on assembly, so as not to pump air into the star:
http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwrit...t/ujoint-1.htm Just add a
dab of grease to the constant velocity Universal Joint's centering
bearing, as it apart of the yoke and can not be disassembled:
http://www.----------.com/CVJoint.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Vehicle in question is my 89 Cherokee Pioneer 4.0 5spd manual.
>
> While greasing the front u-joint on the front driveshaft, I managed to break
> the grease nipple out of the joint. It's been this way for about a month. I
> want to replace the joint. I have heard that I should replace all(3?) the
> joints on the front driveshaft.
>
> I've never done u-joints before but I'd like to learn. I have a 4" vice and
> air tools. What steps do I need to take to replace all three joints? (Hoping
> for a detailed step by step! [Bill!]). Will I need a shop to press parts in
> and out?
>
> Can I remove the front driveshaft, drive to work w/the front driveshaft
> disconnected, have the pressing done after work and then re-install? (I'm
> planning to do this on Sunday, no one is open on Sunday with a press that I
> know of).
>
> Does it matter which brand of joint I buy?
>
> Anything else I should be doing while I've got the driveshaft off?
>
> Any other tips?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
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Re: Cherokee Fixin' - U joints
Hi Carl,
Take a chalk and/or center punch to mark their alignment to insure
you retain the driveshaft's balance and timing. I remove the zerk for
clearance and to allow grease to escape as I put a dab of grease in each
cup on assembly, so as not to pump air into the star:
http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwrit...t/ujoint-1.htm Just add a
dab of grease to the constant velocity Universal Joint's centering
bearing, as it apart of the yoke and can not be disassembled:
http://www.----------.com/CVJoint.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Vehicle in question is my 89 Cherokee Pioneer 4.0 5spd manual.
>
> While greasing the front u-joint on the front driveshaft, I managed to break
> the grease nipple out of the joint. It's been this way for about a month. I
> want to replace the joint. I have heard that I should replace all(3?) the
> joints on the front driveshaft.
>
> I've never done u-joints before but I'd like to learn. I have a 4" vice and
> air tools. What steps do I need to take to replace all three joints? (Hoping
> for a detailed step by step! [Bill!]). Will I need a shop to press parts in
> and out?
>
> Can I remove the front driveshaft, drive to work w/the front driveshaft
> disconnected, have the pressing done after work and then re-install? (I'm
> planning to do this on Sunday, no one is open on Sunday with a press that I
> know of).
>
> Does it matter which brand of joint I buy?
>
> Anything else I should be doing while I've got the driveshaft off?
>
> Any other tips?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
Take a chalk and/or center punch to mark their alignment to insure
you retain the driveshaft's balance and timing. I remove the zerk for
clearance and to allow grease to escape as I put a dab of grease in each
cup on assembly, so as not to pump air into the star:
http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwrit...t/ujoint-1.htm Just add a
dab of grease to the constant velocity Universal Joint's centering
bearing, as it apart of the yoke and can not be disassembled:
http://www.----------.com/CVJoint.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Vehicle in question is my 89 Cherokee Pioneer 4.0 5spd manual.
>
> While greasing the front u-joint on the front driveshaft, I managed to break
> the grease nipple out of the joint. It's been this way for about a month. I
> want to replace the joint. I have heard that I should replace all(3?) the
> joints on the front driveshaft.
>
> I've never done u-joints before but I'd like to learn. I have a 4" vice and
> air tools. What steps do I need to take to replace all three joints? (Hoping
> for a detailed step by step! [Bill!]). Will I need a shop to press parts in
> and out?
>
> Can I remove the front driveshaft, drive to work w/the front driveshaft
> disconnected, have the pressing done after work and then re-install? (I'm
> planning to do this on Sunday, no one is open on Sunday with a press that I
> know of).
>
> Does it matter which brand of joint I buy?
>
> Anything else I should be doing while I've got the driveshaft off?
>
> Any other tips?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
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Re: Cherokee Fixin' - U joints
Hi Carl,
Take a chalk and/or center punch to mark their alignment to insure
you retain the driveshaft's balance and timing. I remove the zerk for
clearance and to allow grease to escape as I put a dab of grease in each
cup on assembly, so as not to pump air into the star:
http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwrit...t/ujoint-1.htm Just add a
dab of grease to the constant velocity Universal Joint's centering
bearing, as it apart of the yoke and can not be disassembled:
http://www.----------.com/CVJoint.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Vehicle in question is my 89 Cherokee Pioneer 4.0 5spd manual.
>
> While greasing the front u-joint on the front driveshaft, I managed to break
> the grease nipple out of the joint. It's been this way for about a month. I
> want to replace the joint. I have heard that I should replace all(3?) the
> joints on the front driveshaft.
>
> I've never done u-joints before but I'd like to learn. I have a 4" vice and
> air tools. What steps do I need to take to replace all three joints? (Hoping
> for a detailed step by step! [Bill!]). Will I need a shop to press parts in
> and out?
>
> Can I remove the front driveshaft, drive to work w/the front driveshaft
> disconnected, have the pressing done after work and then re-install? (I'm
> planning to do this on Sunday, no one is open on Sunday with a press that I
> know of).
>
> Does it matter which brand of joint I buy?
>
> Anything else I should be doing while I've got the driveshaft off?
>
> Any other tips?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
Take a chalk and/or center punch to mark their alignment to insure
you retain the driveshaft's balance and timing. I remove the zerk for
clearance and to allow grease to escape as I put a dab of grease in each
cup on assembly, so as not to pump air into the star:
http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwrit...t/ujoint-1.htm Just add a
dab of grease to the constant velocity Universal Joint's centering
bearing, as it apart of the yoke and can not be disassembled:
http://www.----------.com/CVJoint.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Vehicle in question is my 89 Cherokee Pioneer 4.0 5spd manual.
>
> While greasing the front u-joint on the front driveshaft, I managed to break
> the grease nipple out of the joint. It's been this way for about a month. I
> want to replace the joint. I have heard that I should replace all(3?) the
> joints on the front driveshaft.
>
> I've never done u-joints before but I'd like to learn. I have a 4" vice and
> air tools. What steps do I need to take to replace all three joints? (Hoping
> for a detailed step by step! [Bill!]). Will I need a shop to press parts in
> and out?
>
> Can I remove the front driveshaft, drive to work w/the front driveshaft
> disconnected, have the pressing done after work and then re-install? (I'm
> planning to do this on Sunday, no one is open on Sunday with a press that I
> know of).
>
> Does it matter which brand of joint I buy?
>
> Anything else I should be doing while I've got the driveshaft off?
>
> Any other tips?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
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Re: Cherokee Fixin' - U joints
Bill-
Thanks for the links. I'm not sure I understand what zerk to remove, and
what "cups" you mean, or the centering bearing thing. Can you be more
elaborate for a first-timer?
Thanks,
Carl
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41DA0C3F.987113BC@***.net...
> Hi Carl,
> Take a chalk and/or center punch to mark their alignment to insure
> you retain the driveshaft's balance and timing. I remove the zerk for
> clearance and to allow grease to escape as I put a dab of grease in each
> cup on assembly, so as not to pump air into the star:
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwrit...t/ujoint-1.htm Just add a
> dab of grease to the constant velocity Universal Joint's centering
> bearing, as it apart of the yoke and can not be disassembled:
> http://www.----------.com/CVJoint.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > Vehicle in question is my 89 Cherokee Pioneer 4.0 5spd manual.
> >
> > While greasing the front u-joint on the front driveshaft, I managed to
break
> > the grease nipple out of the joint. It's been this way for about a
month. I
> > want to replace the joint. I have heard that I should replace all(3?)
the
> > joints on the front driveshaft.
> >
> > I've never done u-joints before but I'd like to learn. I have a 4" vice
and
> > air tools. What steps do I need to take to replace all three joints?
(Hoping
> > for a detailed step by step! [Bill!]). Will I need a shop to press parts
in
> > and out?
> >
> > Can I remove the front driveshaft, drive to work w/the front driveshaft
> > disconnected, have the pressing done after work and then re-install?
(I'm
> > planning to do this on Sunday, no one is open on Sunday with a press
that I
> > know of).
> >
> > Does it matter which brand of joint I buy?
> >
> > Anything else I should be doing while I've got the driveshaft off?
> >
> > Any other tips?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Carl
Thanks for the links. I'm not sure I understand what zerk to remove, and
what "cups" you mean, or the centering bearing thing. Can you be more
elaborate for a first-timer?
Thanks,
Carl
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41DA0C3F.987113BC@***.net...
> Hi Carl,
> Take a chalk and/or center punch to mark their alignment to insure
> you retain the driveshaft's balance and timing. I remove the zerk for
> clearance and to allow grease to escape as I put a dab of grease in each
> cup on assembly, so as not to pump air into the star:
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwrit...t/ujoint-1.htm Just add a
> dab of grease to the constant velocity Universal Joint's centering
> bearing, as it apart of the yoke and can not be disassembled:
> http://www.----------.com/CVJoint.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > Vehicle in question is my 89 Cherokee Pioneer 4.0 5spd manual.
> >
> > While greasing the front u-joint on the front driveshaft, I managed to
break
> > the grease nipple out of the joint. It's been this way for about a
month. I
> > want to replace the joint. I have heard that I should replace all(3?)
the
> > joints on the front driveshaft.
> >
> > I've never done u-joints before but I'd like to learn. I have a 4" vice
and
> > air tools. What steps do I need to take to replace all three joints?
(Hoping
> > for a detailed step by step! [Bill!]). Will I need a shop to press parts
in
> > and out?
> >
> > Can I remove the front driveshaft, drive to work w/the front driveshaft
> > disconnected, have the pressing done after work and then re-install?
(I'm
> > planning to do this on Sunday, no one is open on Sunday with a press
that I
> > know of).
> >
> > Does it matter which brand of joint I buy?
> >
> > Anything else I should be doing while I've got the driveshaft off?
> >
> > Any other tips?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Carl
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Re: Cherokee Fixin' - U joints
Bill-
Thanks for the links. I'm not sure I understand what zerk to remove, and
what "cups" you mean, or the centering bearing thing. Can you be more
elaborate for a first-timer?
Thanks,
Carl
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41DA0C3F.987113BC@***.net...
> Hi Carl,
> Take a chalk and/or center punch to mark their alignment to insure
> you retain the driveshaft's balance and timing. I remove the zerk for
> clearance and to allow grease to escape as I put a dab of grease in each
> cup on assembly, so as not to pump air into the star:
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwrit...t/ujoint-1.htm Just add a
> dab of grease to the constant velocity Universal Joint's centering
> bearing, as it apart of the yoke and can not be disassembled:
> http://www.----------.com/CVJoint.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > Vehicle in question is my 89 Cherokee Pioneer 4.0 5spd manual.
> >
> > While greasing the front u-joint on the front driveshaft, I managed to
break
> > the grease nipple out of the joint. It's been this way for about a
month. I
> > want to replace the joint. I have heard that I should replace all(3?)
the
> > joints on the front driveshaft.
> >
> > I've never done u-joints before but I'd like to learn. I have a 4" vice
and
> > air tools. What steps do I need to take to replace all three joints?
(Hoping
> > for a detailed step by step! [Bill!]). Will I need a shop to press parts
in
> > and out?
> >
> > Can I remove the front driveshaft, drive to work w/the front driveshaft
> > disconnected, have the pressing done after work and then re-install?
(I'm
> > planning to do this on Sunday, no one is open on Sunday with a press
that I
> > know of).
> >
> > Does it matter which brand of joint I buy?
> >
> > Anything else I should be doing while I've got the driveshaft off?
> >
> > Any other tips?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Carl
Thanks for the links. I'm not sure I understand what zerk to remove, and
what "cups" you mean, or the centering bearing thing. Can you be more
elaborate for a first-timer?
Thanks,
Carl
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41DA0C3F.987113BC@***.net...
> Hi Carl,
> Take a chalk and/or center punch to mark their alignment to insure
> you retain the driveshaft's balance and timing. I remove the zerk for
> clearance and to allow grease to escape as I put a dab of grease in each
> cup on assembly, so as not to pump air into the star:
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwrit...t/ujoint-1.htm Just add a
> dab of grease to the constant velocity Universal Joint's centering
> bearing, as it apart of the yoke and can not be disassembled:
> http://www.----------.com/CVJoint.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > Vehicle in question is my 89 Cherokee Pioneer 4.0 5spd manual.
> >
> > While greasing the front u-joint on the front driveshaft, I managed to
break
> > the grease nipple out of the joint. It's been this way for about a
month. I
> > want to replace the joint. I have heard that I should replace all(3?)
the
> > joints on the front driveshaft.
> >
> > I've never done u-joints before but I'd like to learn. I have a 4" vice
and
> > air tools. What steps do I need to take to replace all three joints?
(Hoping
> > for a detailed step by step! [Bill!]). Will I need a shop to press parts
in
> > and out?
> >
> > Can I remove the front driveshaft, drive to work w/the front driveshaft
> > disconnected, have the pressing done after work and then re-install?
(I'm
> > planning to do this on Sunday, no one is open on Sunday with a press
that I
> > know of).
> >
> > Does it matter which brand of joint I buy?
> >
> > Anything else I should be doing while I've got the driveshaft off?
> >
> > Any other tips?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Carl
#7
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Re: Cherokee Fixin' - U joints
Bill-
Thanks for the links. I'm not sure I understand what zerk to remove, and
what "cups" you mean, or the centering bearing thing. Can you be more
elaborate for a first-timer?
Thanks,
Carl
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41DA0C3F.987113BC@***.net...
> Hi Carl,
> Take a chalk and/or center punch to mark their alignment to insure
> you retain the driveshaft's balance and timing. I remove the zerk for
> clearance and to allow grease to escape as I put a dab of grease in each
> cup on assembly, so as not to pump air into the star:
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwrit...t/ujoint-1.htm Just add a
> dab of grease to the constant velocity Universal Joint's centering
> bearing, as it apart of the yoke and can not be disassembled:
> http://www.----------.com/CVJoint.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > Vehicle in question is my 89 Cherokee Pioneer 4.0 5spd manual.
> >
> > While greasing the front u-joint on the front driveshaft, I managed to
break
> > the grease nipple out of the joint. It's been this way for about a
month. I
> > want to replace the joint. I have heard that I should replace all(3?)
the
> > joints on the front driveshaft.
> >
> > I've never done u-joints before but I'd like to learn. I have a 4" vice
and
> > air tools. What steps do I need to take to replace all three joints?
(Hoping
> > for a detailed step by step! [Bill!]). Will I need a shop to press parts
in
> > and out?
> >
> > Can I remove the front driveshaft, drive to work w/the front driveshaft
> > disconnected, have the pressing done after work and then re-install?
(I'm
> > planning to do this on Sunday, no one is open on Sunday with a press
that I
> > know of).
> >
> > Does it matter which brand of joint I buy?
> >
> > Anything else I should be doing while I've got the driveshaft off?
> >
> > Any other tips?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Carl
Thanks for the links. I'm not sure I understand what zerk to remove, and
what "cups" you mean, or the centering bearing thing. Can you be more
elaborate for a first-timer?
Thanks,
Carl
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41DA0C3F.987113BC@***.net...
> Hi Carl,
> Take a chalk and/or center punch to mark their alignment to insure
> you retain the driveshaft's balance and timing. I remove the zerk for
> clearance and to allow grease to escape as I put a dab of grease in each
> cup on assembly, so as not to pump air into the star:
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/otherwrit...t/ujoint-1.htm Just add a
> dab of grease to the constant velocity Universal Joint's centering
> bearing, as it apart of the yoke and can not be disassembled:
> http://www.----------.com/CVJoint.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > Vehicle in question is my 89 Cherokee Pioneer 4.0 5spd manual.
> >
> > While greasing the front u-joint on the front driveshaft, I managed to
break
> > the grease nipple out of the joint. It's been this way for about a
month. I
> > want to replace the joint. I have heard that I should replace all(3?)
the
> > joints on the front driveshaft.
> >
> > I've never done u-joints before but I'd like to learn. I have a 4" vice
and
> > air tools. What steps do I need to take to replace all three joints?
(Hoping
> > for a detailed step by step! [Bill!]). Will I need a shop to press parts
in
> > and out?
> >
> > Can I remove the front driveshaft, drive to work w/the front driveshaft
> > disconnected, have the pressing done after work and then re-install?
(I'm
> > planning to do this on Sunday, no one is open on Sunday with a press
that I
> > know of).
> >
> > Does it matter which brand of joint I buy?
> >
> > Anything else I should be doing while I've got the driveshaft off?
> >
> > Any other tips?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Carl
#8
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Re: Cherokee Fixin' - U joints
Sorry Carl, that was the best I could articulate.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Bill-
> Thanks for the links. I'm not sure I understand what zerk to remove, and
> what "cups" you mean, or the centering bearing thing. Can you be more
> elaborate for a first-timer?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Bill-
> Thanks for the links. I'm not sure I understand what zerk to remove, and
> what "cups" you mean, or the centering bearing thing. Can you be more
> elaborate for a first-timer?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
#9
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Re: Cherokee Fixin' - U joints
Sorry Carl, that was the best I could articulate.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Bill-
> Thanks for the links. I'm not sure I understand what zerk to remove, and
> what "cups" you mean, or the centering bearing thing. Can you be more
> elaborate for a first-timer?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Bill-
> Thanks for the links. I'm not sure I understand what zerk to remove, and
> what "cups" you mean, or the centering bearing thing. Can you be more
> elaborate for a first-timer?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
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Re: Cherokee Fixin' - U joints
Sorry Carl, that was the best I could articulate.
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Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Bill-
> Thanks for the links. I'm not sure I understand what zerk to remove, and
> what "cups" you mean, or the centering bearing thing. Can you be more
> elaborate for a first-timer?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Carl Saiyed wrote:
>
> Bill-
> Thanks for the links. I'm not sure I understand what zerk to remove, and
> what "cups" you mean, or the centering bearing thing. Can you be more
> elaborate for a first-timer?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl