'96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
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Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That is
what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to him
he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree, you
can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was screaming
so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to listen
to me.
This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty hard
questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby, politics.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> Why insert them at all?
> Did they all suffer from retention?
> Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and
a
> > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
"emergency
> > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> > He
> > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> > next
> > mistake.
> >
> > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> > order?
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
> >> and
> >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> > that
> >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > mechanics.
> >>
> >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
(BSN-RNs).
> >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
their
> >> name improves their competence.....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> >> >
> >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> > bac!!!!
> >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> >> >>
> >> >> billy ray wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> >> > complete
> >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build
you
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case
of
> >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from
a
> >> > patio
> >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That's the difference..
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> > Service
> >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection
of
> > the
> >> > rear
> >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
crimped
> >> > hose
> >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> > then
> >> >> > > while
> >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> > the
> >> >> > > system
> >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > interesting
> >> > too.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> > O-rings
> >> > and
> >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> > the
> >> > rest
> >> >> > > are getting ready.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
"real
> >> >> > > mechanic"
> >> >> > >> for a leak test
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
about
> >> >> > >> >four
> >> >> > > years
> >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and
they
> >> > fixed
> >> >> > >> >it
> >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> > worked
> >> > fine
> >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
bought
> > a
> >> >> > > recharge
> >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > stopped
> >> >> > > cooling
> >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> > about
> >> > a
> >> >> > > week
> >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> > plan
> >> > on
> >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Marcel
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to him
he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree, you
can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was screaming
so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to listen
to me.
This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty hard
questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby, politics.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> Why insert them at all?
> Did they all suffer from retention?
> Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and
a
> > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
"emergency
> > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> > He
> > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> > next
> > mistake.
> >
> > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> > order?
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
> >> and
> >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> > that
> >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > mechanics.
> >>
> >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
(BSN-RNs).
> >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
their
> >> name improves their competence.....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> >> >
> >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> > bac!!!!
> >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> >> >>
> >> >> billy ray wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> >> > complete
> >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build
you
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case
of
> >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from
a
> >> > patio
> >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That's the difference..
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> > Service
> >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection
of
> > the
> >> > rear
> >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
crimped
> >> > hose
> >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> > then
> >> >> > > while
> >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> > the
> >> >> > > system
> >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > interesting
> >> > too.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> > O-rings
> >> > and
> >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> > the
> >> > rest
> >> >> > > are getting ready.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
"real
> >> >> > > mechanic"
> >> >> > >> for a leak test
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
about
> >> >> > >> >four
> >> >> > > years
> >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and
they
> >> > fixed
> >> >> > >> >it
> >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> > worked
> >> > fine
> >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
bought
> > a
> >> >> > > recharge
> >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > stopped
> >> >> > > cooling
> >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> > about
> >> > a
> >> >> > > week
> >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> > plan
> >> > on
> >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Marcel
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
#82
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Re: Off Topic '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Hi Earle,
I overheard a couple ambulance attends while visiting my Mom at Tri
City Hospital, Oceanside, Kalifornia saying they wanted to practice a
heart start medicine, injected straight into the heart of an old lady
too senile to ever be able to tell, while she was being transported back
to her convalescent home. I bet they would have charged for that
service, too. Scare the heck, out of me! So I did nothing. :-( Just
planed to be with any family member, being transported!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That is
> what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to him
> he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree, you
> can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was screaming
> so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
> Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to listen
> to me.
>
> This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
> Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
> supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty hard
> questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby, politics.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> > Why insert them at all?
> > Did they all suffer from retention?
> > Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and
> a
> > > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> > > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
> "emergency
> > > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> > > He
> > > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> > > next
> > > mistake.
> > >
> > > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> > > order?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> > >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
> > >> and
> > >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> > > that
> > >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > > mechanics.
> > >>
> > >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> > >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
> (BSN-RNs).
> > >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
> their
> > >> name improves their competence.....
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> > >> >
> > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> > >> >
> > >> > Earle
> > >> >
> > >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> > >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> > > bac!!!!
> > >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> > >> >>
> > >> >> billy ray wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> > >> > complete
> > >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build
> you
> > >> >> > a
> > >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case
> of
> > >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from
> a
> > >> > patio
> > >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > That's the difference..
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> > > Service
> > >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection
> of
> > > the
> > >> > rear
> > >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
> crimped
> > >> > hose
> > >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> > > then
> > >> >> > > while
> > >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> > > the
> > >> >> > > system
> > >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > > interesting
> > >> > too.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> > > O-rings
> > >> > and
> > >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> > > the
> > >> > rest
> > >> >> > > are getting ready.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Earle
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
> "real
> > >> >> > > mechanic"
> > >> >> > >> for a leak test
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
> about
> > >> >> > >> >four
> > >> >> > > years
> > >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and
> they
> > >> > fixed
> > >> >> > >> >it
> > >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> > > worked
> > >> > fine
> > >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
> bought
> > > a
> > >> >> > > recharge
> > >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > > stopped
> > >> >> > > cooling
> > >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> > > about
> > >> > a
> > >> >> > > week
> > >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> > > plan
> > >> > on
> > >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Marcel
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
I overheard a couple ambulance attends while visiting my Mom at Tri
City Hospital, Oceanside, Kalifornia saying they wanted to practice a
heart start medicine, injected straight into the heart of an old lady
too senile to ever be able to tell, while she was being transported back
to her convalescent home. I bet they would have charged for that
service, too. Scare the heck, out of me! So I did nothing. :-( Just
planed to be with any family member, being transported!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That is
> what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to him
> he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree, you
> can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was screaming
> so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
> Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to listen
> to me.
>
> This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
> Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
> supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty hard
> questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby, politics.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> > Why insert them at all?
> > Did they all suffer from retention?
> > Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and
> a
> > > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> > > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
> "emergency
> > > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> > > He
> > > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> > > next
> > > mistake.
> > >
> > > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> > > order?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> > >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
> > >> and
> > >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> > > that
> > >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > > mechanics.
> > >>
> > >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> > >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
> (BSN-RNs).
> > >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
> their
> > >> name improves their competence.....
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> > >> >
> > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> > >> >
> > >> > Earle
> > >> >
> > >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> > >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> > > bac!!!!
> > >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> > >> >>
> > >> >> billy ray wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> > >> > complete
> > >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build
> you
> > >> >> > a
> > >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case
> of
> > >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from
> a
> > >> > patio
> > >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > That's the difference..
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> > > Service
> > >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection
> of
> > > the
> > >> > rear
> > >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
> crimped
> > >> > hose
> > >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> > > then
> > >> >> > > while
> > >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> > > the
> > >> >> > > system
> > >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > > interesting
> > >> > too.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> > > O-rings
> > >> > and
> > >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> > > the
> > >> > rest
> > >> >> > > are getting ready.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Earle
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
> "real
> > >> >> > > mechanic"
> > >> >> > >> for a leak test
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
> about
> > >> >> > >> >four
> > >> >> > > years
> > >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and
> they
> > >> > fixed
> > >> >> > >> >it
> > >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> > > worked
> > >> > fine
> > >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
> bought
> > > a
> > >> >> > > recharge
> > >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > > stopped
> > >> >> > > cooling
> > >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> > > about
> > >> > a
> > >> >> > > week
> > >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> > > plan
> > >> > on
> > >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Marcel
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
#83
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Re: Off Topic '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Hi Earle,
I overheard a couple ambulance attends while visiting my Mom at Tri
City Hospital, Oceanside, Kalifornia saying they wanted to practice a
heart start medicine, injected straight into the heart of an old lady
too senile to ever be able to tell, while she was being transported back
to her convalescent home. I bet they would have charged for that
service, too. Scare the heck, out of me! So I did nothing. :-( Just
planed to be with any family member, being transported!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That is
> what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to him
> he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree, you
> can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was screaming
> so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
> Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to listen
> to me.
>
> This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
> Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
> supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty hard
> questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby, politics.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> > Why insert them at all?
> > Did they all suffer from retention?
> > Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and
> a
> > > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> > > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
> "emergency
> > > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> > > He
> > > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> > > next
> > > mistake.
> > >
> > > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> > > order?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> > >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
> > >> and
> > >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> > > that
> > >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > > mechanics.
> > >>
> > >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> > >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
> (BSN-RNs).
> > >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
> their
> > >> name improves their competence.....
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> > >> >
> > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> > >> >
> > >> > Earle
> > >> >
> > >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> > >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> > > bac!!!!
> > >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> > >> >>
> > >> >> billy ray wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> > >> > complete
> > >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build
> you
> > >> >> > a
> > >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case
> of
> > >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from
> a
> > >> > patio
> > >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > That's the difference..
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> > > Service
> > >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection
> of
> > > the
> > >> > rear
> > >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
> crimped
> > >> > hose
> > >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> > > then
> > >> >> > > while
> > >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> > > the
> > >> >> > > system
> > >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > > interesting
> > >> > too.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> > > O-rings
> > >> > and
> > >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> > > the
> > >> > rest
> > >> >> > > are getting ready.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Earle
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
> "real
> > >> >> > > mechanic"
> > >> >> > >> for a leak test
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
> about
> > >> >> > >> >four
> > >> >> > > years
> > >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and
> they
> > >> > fixed
> > >> >> > >> >it
> > >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> > > worked
> > >> > fine
> > >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
> bought
> > > a
> > >> >> > > recharge
> > >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > > stopped
> > >> >> > > cooling
> > >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> > > about
> > >> > a
> > >> >> > > week
> > >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> > > plan
> > >> > on
> > >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Marcel
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
I overheard a couple ambulance attends while visiting my Mom at Tri
City Hospital, Oceanside, Kalifornia saying they wanted to practice a
heart start medicine, injected straight into the heart of an old lady
too senile to ever be able to tell, while she was being transported back
to her convalescent home. I bet they would have charged for that
service, too. Scare the heck, out of me! So I did nothing. :-( Just
planed to be with any family member, being transported!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That is
> what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to him
> he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree, you
> can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was screaming
> so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
> Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to listen
> to me.
>
> This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
> Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
> supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty hard
> questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby, politics.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> > Why insert them at all?
> > Did they all suffer from retention?
> > Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and
> a
> > > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> > > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
> "emergency
> > > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> > > He
> > > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> > > next
> > > mistake.
> > >
> > > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> > > order?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> > >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
> > >> and
> > >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> > > that
> > >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > > mechanics.
> > >>
> > >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> > >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
> (BSN-RNs).
> > >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
> their
> > >> name improves their competence.....
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> > >> >
> > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> > >> >
> > >> > Earle
> > >> >
> > >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> > >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> > > bac!!!!
> > >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> > >> >>
> > >> >> billy ray wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> > >> > complete
> > >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build
> you
> > >> >> > a
> > >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case
> of
> > >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from
> a
> > >> > patio
> > >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > That's the difference..
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> > > Service
> > >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection
> of
> > > the
> > >> > rear
> > >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
> crimped
> > >> > hose
> > >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> > > then
> > >> >> > > while
> > >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> > > the
> > >> >> > > system
> > >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > > interesting
> > >> > too.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> > > O-rings
> > >> > and
> > >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> > > the
> > >> > rest
> > >> >> > > are getting ready.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Earle
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
> "real
> > >> >> > > mechanic"
> > >> >> > >> for a leak test
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
> about
> > >> >> > >> >four
> > >> >> > > years
> > >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and
> they
> > >> > fixed
> > >> >> > >> >it
> > >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> > > worked
> > >> > fine
> > >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
> bought
> > > a
> > >> >> > > recharge
> > >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > > stopped
> > >> >> > > cooling
> > >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> > > about
> > >> > a
> > >> >> > > week
> > >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> > > plan
> > >> > on
> > >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Marcel
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
#84
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Off Topic '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Hi Earle,
I overheard a couple ambulance attends while visiting my Mom at Tri
City Hospital, Oceanside, Kalifornia saying they wanted to practice a
heart start medicine, injected straight into the heart of an old lady
too senile to ever be able to tell, while she was being transported back
to her convalescent home. I bet they would have charged for that
service, too. Scare the heck, out of me! So I did nothing. :-( Just
planed to be with any family member, being transported!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That is
> what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to him
> he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree, you
> can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was screaming
> so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
> Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to listen
> to me.
>
> This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
> Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
> supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty hard
> questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby, politics.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> > Why insert them at all?
> > Did they all suffer from retention?
> > Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and
> a
> > > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> > > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
> "emergency
> > > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> > > He
> > > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> > > next
> > > mistake.
> > >
> > > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> > > order?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> > >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
> > >> and
> > >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> > > that
> > >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > > mechanics.
> > >>
> > >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> > >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
> (BSN-RNs).
> > >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
> their
> > >> name improves their competence.....
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> > >> >
> > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> > >> >
> > >> > Earle
> > >> >
> > >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> > >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> > > bac!!!!
> > >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> > >> >>
> > >> >> billy ray wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> > >> > complete
> > >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build
> you
> > >> >> > a
> > >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case
> of
> > >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from
> a
> > >> > patio
> > >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > That's the difference..
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> > > Service
> > >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection
> of
> > > the
> > >> > rear
> > >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
> crimped
> > >> > hose
> > >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> > > then
> > >> >> > > while
> > >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> > > the
> > >> >> > > system
> > >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > > interesting
> > >> > too.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> > > O-rings
> > >> > and
> > >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> > > the
> > >> > rest
> > >> >> > > are getting ready.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Earle
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
> "real
> > >> >> > > mechanic"
> > >> >> > >> for a leak test
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
> about
> > >> >> > >> >four
> > >> >> > > years
> > >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and
> they
> > >> > fixed
> > >> >> > >> >it
> > >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> > > worked
> > >> > fine
> > >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
> bought
> > > a
> > >> >> > > recharge
> > >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > > stopped
> > >> >> > > cooling
> > >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> > > about
> > >> > a
> > >> >> > > week
> > >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> > > plan
> > >> > on
> > >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Marcel
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
I overheard a couple ambulance attends while visiting my Mom at Tri
City Hospital, Oceanside, Kalifornia saying they wanted to practice a
heart start medicine, injected straight into the heart of an old lady
too senile to ever be able to tell, while she was being transported back
to her convalescent home. I bet they would have charged for that
service, too. Scare the heck, out of me! So I did nothing. :-( Just
planed to be with any family member, being transported!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That is
> what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to him
> he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree, you
> can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was screaming
> so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
> Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to listen
> to me.
>
> This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
> Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
> supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty hard
> questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby, politics.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> > Why insert them at all?
> > Did they all suffer from retention?
> > Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and
> a
> > > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> > > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
> "emergency
> > > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> > > He
> > > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> > > next
> > > mistake.
> > >
> > > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> > > order?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> > >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
> > >> and
> > >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> > > that
> > >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > > mechanics.
> > >>
> > >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> > >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
> (BSN-RNs).
> > >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
> their
> > >> name improves their competence.....
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> > >> >
> > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> > >> >
> > >> > Earle
> > >> >
> > >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> > >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> > > bac!!!!
> > >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> > >> >>
> > >> >> billy ray wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> > >> > complete
> > >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build
> you
> > >> >> > a
> > >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case
> of
> > >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from
> a
> > >> > patio
> > >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > That's the difference..
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> > > Service
> > >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection
> of
> > > the
> > >> > rear
> > >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
> crimped
> > >> > hose
> > >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> > > then
> > >> >> > > while
> > >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> > > the
> > >> >> > > system
> > >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > > interesting
> > >> > too.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> > > O-rings
> > >> > and
> > >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> > > the
> > >> > rest
> > >> >> > > are getting ready.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Earle
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
> "real
> > >> >> > > mechanic"
> > >> >> > >> for a leak test
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
> about
> > >> >> > >> >four
> > >> >> > > years
> > >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and
> they
> > >> > fixed
> > >> >> > >> >it
> > >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> > > worked
> > >> > fine
> > >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
> bought
> > > a
> > >> >> > > recharge
> > >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > > stopped
> > >> >> > > cooling
> > >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> > > about
> > >> > a
> > >> >> > > week
> > >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> > > plan
> > >> > on
> > >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Marcel
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: Off Topic '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Hi Earle,
I overheard a couple ambulance attends while visiting my Mom at Tri
City Hospital, Oceanside, Kalifornia saying they wanted to practice a
heart start medicine, injected straight into the heart of an old lady
too senile to ever be able to tell, while she was being transported back
to her convalescent home. I bet they would have charged for that
service, too. Scare the heck, out of me! So I did nothing. :-( Just
planed to be with any family member, being transported!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That is
> what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to him
> he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree, you
> can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was screaming
> so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
> Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to listen
> to me.
>
> This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
> Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
> supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty hard
> questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby, politics.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> > Why insert them at all?
> > Did they all suffer from retention?
> > Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and
> a
> > > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> > > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
> "emergency
> > > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> > > He
> > > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> > > next
> > > mistake.
> > >
> > > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> > > order?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> > >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
> > >> and
> > >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> > > that
> > >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > > mechanics.
> > >>
> > >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> > >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
> (BSN-RNs).
> > >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
> their
> > >> name improves their competence.....
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> > >> >
> > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> > >> >
> > >> > Earle
> > >> >
> > >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> > >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> > > bac!!!!
> > >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> > >> >>
> > >> >> billy ray wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> > >> > complete
> > >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build
> you
> > >> >> > a
> > >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case
> of
> > >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from
> a
> > >> > patio
> > >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > That's the difference..
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> > > Service
> > >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection
> of
> > > the
> > >> > rear
> > >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
> crimped
> > >> > hose
> > >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> > > then
> > >> >> > > while
> > >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> > > the
> > >> >> > > system
> > >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > > interesting
> > >> > too.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> > > O-rings
> > >> > and
> > >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> > > the
> > >> > rest
> > >> >> > > are getting ready.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Earle
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
> "real
> > >> >> > > mechanic"
> > >> >> > >> for a leak test
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
> about
> > >> >> > >> >four
> > >> >> > > years
> > >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and
> they
> > >> > fixed
> > >> >> > >> >it
> > >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> > > worked
> > >> > fine
> > >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
> bought
> > > a
> > >> >> > > recharge
> > >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > > stopped
> > >> >> > > cooling
> > >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> > > about
> > >> > a
> > >> >> > > week
> > >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> > > plan
> > >> > on
> > >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Marcel
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
I overheard a couple ambulance attends while visiting my Mom at Tri
City Hospital, Oceanside, Kalifornia saying they wanted to practice a
heart start medicine, injected straight into the heart of an old lady
too senile to ever be able to tell, while she was being transported back
to her convalescent home. I bet they would have charged for that
service, too. Scare the heck, out of me! So I did nothing. :-( Just
planed to be with any family member, being transported!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That is
> what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to him
> he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree, you
> can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was screaming
> so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
> Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to listen
> to me.
>
> This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
> Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
> supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty hard
> questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby, politics.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> > Why insert them at all?
> > Did they all suffer from retention?
> > Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
> >
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and
> a
> > > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> > > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
> "emergency
> > > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> > > He
> > > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> > > next
> > > mistake.
> > >
> > > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> > > order?
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> > >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
> > >> and
> > >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> > > that
> > >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > > mechanics.
> > >>
> > >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> > >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
> (BSN-RNs).
> > >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
> their
> > >> name improves their competence.....
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> > >> >
> > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> > >> >
> > >> > Earle
> > >> >
> > >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> > >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> > > bac!!!!
> > >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> > >> >>
> > >> >> billy ray wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> > >> > complete
> > >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build
> you
> > >> >> > a
> > >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case
> of
> > >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from
> a
> > >> > patio
> > >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > That's the difference..
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> > > Service
> > >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection
> of
> > > the
> > >> > rear
> > >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
> crimped
> > >> > hose
> > >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> > > then
> > >> >> > > while
> > >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> > > the
> > >> >> > > system
> > >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > > interesting
> > >> > too.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> > > O-rings
> > >> > and
> > >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> > > the
> > >> > rest
> > >> >> > > are getting ready.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Earle
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
> "real
> > >> >> > > mechanic"
> > >> >> > >> for a leak test
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
> about
> > >> >> > >> >four
> > >> >> > > years
> > >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and
> they
> > >> > fixed
> > >> >> > >> >it
> > >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> > > worked
> > >> > fine
> > >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
> bought
> > > a
> > >> >> > > recharge
> > >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > > stopped
> > >> >> > > cooling
> > >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> > > about
> > >> > a
> > >> >> > > week
> > >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> > > plan
> > >> > on
> > >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> > >> >> > >> >
> > >> >> > >> > Marcel
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >>
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
#86
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Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Hi ----,
I've fired many smudge pots on my parents avocado ranch:
http://www.----------.com/temp/avocadoTrees.jpg And seen the ice sickles
made by the sprinklers also used to wash off the cold. But, I don't
think it's that cold any more.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
---- wrote:
>
> That's not the part of So. California I came from. Down in the
> twenties many times in the winter. Smudge pots and later wind
> machines for the citrus groves. When I was in high school we covered
> our engines at night with blankets. Of course I suppose people in
> Alaska could do without a heater too, but.....................
>
> ----
I've fired many smudge pots on my parents avocado ranch:
http://www.----------.com/temp/avocadoTrees.jpg And seen the ice sickles
made by the sprinklers also used to wash off the cold. But, I don't
think it's that cold any more.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
---- wrote:
>
> That's not the part of So. California I came from. Down in the
> twenties many times in the winter. Smudge pots and later wind
> machines for the citrus groves. When I was in high school we covered
> our engines at night with blankets. Of course I suppose people in
> Alaska could do without a heater too, but.....................
>
> ----
#87
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Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Hi ----,
I've fired many smudge pots on my parents avocado ranch:
http://www.----------.com/temp/avocadoTrees.jpg And seen the ice sickles
made by the sprinklers also used to wash off the cold. But, I don't
think it's that cold any more.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
---- wrote:
>
> That's not the part of So. California I came from. Down in the
> twenties many times in the winter. Smudge pots and later wind
> machines for the citrus groves. When I was in high school we covered
> our engines at night with blankets. Of course I suppose people in
> Alaska could do without a heater too, but.....................
>
> ----
I've fired many smudge pots on my parents avocado ranch:
http://www.----------.com/temp/avocadoTrees.jpg And seen the ice sickles
made by the sprinklers also used to wash off the cold. But, I don't
think it's that cold any more.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
---- wrote:
>
> That's not the part of So. California I came from. Down in the
> twenties many times in the winter. Smudge pots and later wind
> machines for the citrus groves. When I was in high school we covered
> our engines at night with blankets. Of course I suppose people in
> Alaska could do without a heater too, but.....................
>
> ----
#88
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Hi ----,
I've fired many smudge pots on my parents avocado ranch:
http://www.----------.com/temp/avocadoTrees.jpg And seen the ice sickles
made by the sprinklers also used to wash off the cold. But, I don't
think it's that cold any more.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
---- wrote:
>
> That's not the part of So. California I came from. Down in the
> twenties many times in the winter. Smudge pots and later wind
> machines for the citrus groves. When I was in high school we covered
> our engines at night with blankets. Of course I suppose people in
> Alaska could do without a heater too, but.....................
>
> ----
I've fired many smudge pots on my parents avocado ranch:
http://www.----------.com/temp/avocadoTrees.jpg And seen the ice sickles
made by the sprinklers also used to wash off the cold. But, I don't
think it's that cold any more.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
---- wrote:
>
> That's not the part of So. California I came from. Down in the
> twenties many times in the winter. Smudge pots and later wind
> machines for the citrus groves. When I was in high school we covered
> our engines at night with blankets. Of course I suppose people in
> Alaska could do without a heater too, but.....................
>
> ----
#89
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Posts: n/a
Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Hi ----,
I've fired many smudge pots on my parents avocado ranch:
http://www.----------.com/temp/avocadoTrees.jpg And seen the ice sickles
made by the sprinklers also used to wash off the cold. But, I don't
think it's that cold any more.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
---- wrote:
>
> That's not the part of So. California I came from. Down in the
> twenties many times in the winter. Smudge pots and later wind
> machines for the citrus groves. When I was in high school we covered
> our engines at night with blankets. Of course I suppose people in
> Alaska could do without a heater too, but.....................
>
> ----
I've fired many smudge pots on my parents avocado ranch:
http://www.----------.com/temp/avocadoTrees.jpg And seen the ice sickles
made by the sprinklers also used to wash off the cold. But, I don't
think it's that cold any more.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
---- wrote:
>
> That's not the part of So. California I came from. Down in the
> twenties many times in the winter. Smudge pots and later wind
> machines for the citrus groves. When I was in high school we covered
> our engines at night with blankets. Of course I suppose people in
> Alaska could do without a heater too, but.....................
>
> ----
#90
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Re: Off Topic '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Hi Earle,
The paramedics associated with our tax payers funded fire
departments out here are heroes.
Nope, I don't really want to know.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> One of the problems, is that the public thinks these people are angels of
> mercy. Some of them are. Some of them are as crazy as a fruit bat. One of
> the texts I read for a psych. class said, that there were more nut cases in
> the "helping professions", than in the normal population. The very first
> lesson, in EMT class, is that you *always* have to obtain consent for any
> treatment.
>
> Next time, report the sons of -----s. Find out how the system really works,
> before it is you being transported back to your convalescent home. Or maybe
> you don't really want to know.
>
> Earle
The paramedics associated with our tax payers funded fire
departments out here are heroes.
Nope, I don't really want to know.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> One of the problems, is that the public thinks these people are angels of
> mercy. Some of them are. Some of them are as crazy as a fruit bat. One of
> the texts I read for a psych. class said, that there were more nut cases in
> the "helping professions", than in the normal population. The very first
> lesson, in EMT class, is that you *always* have to obtain consent for any
> treatment.
>
> Next time, report the sons of -----s. Find out how the system really works,
> before it is you being transported back to your convalescent home. Or maybe
> you don't really want to know.
>
> Earle