'96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
03-19-2006 | 06:18 PM
#71
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Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Hi Bill,
It wasn't that may years ago when we could access the whole unit
from the engine side. About four bolts and I can change the evaporator,
or heater core in my '78 Bronco. Both my '84 and '89 Bird's heater
failed. :-( In Kalifornia we don't need a no stinkin' heater, but it
would be nice to be able to remove the condensed water from the inside
of my windshields.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> My niece had a Ford with a water leak behind the dash. They suspected a
> clogged drain or windshield leak but it wasn't the windshield and repeated
> clearings had no effect and they eventually decided to remove the dash....
>
> Removal of the dash was a ten (10) hour job at $75/hr + diagnosis and repair
> of the problem.
>
> She decided to just live with the leak...
>
> It is a shame that the vehicles today are designed to be unrepairable
It wasn't that may years ago when we could access the whole unit
from the engine side. About four bolts and I can change the evaporator,
or heater core in my '78 Bronco. Both my '84 and '89 Bird's heater
failed. :-( In Kalifornia we don't need a no stinkin' heater, but it
would be nice to be able to remove the condensed water from the inside
of my windshields.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> My niece had a Ford with a water leak behind the dash. They suspected a
> clogged drain or windshield leak but it wasn't the windshield and repeated
> clearings had no effect and they eventually decided to remove the dash....
>
> Removal of the dash was a ten (10) hour job at $75/hr + diagnosis and repair
> of the problem.
>
> She decided to just live with the leak...
>
> It is a shame that the vehicles today are designed to be unrepairable
03-19-2006 | 06:18 PM
#72
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Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Hi Bill,
It wasn't that may years ago when we could access the whole unit
from the engine side. About four bolts and I can change the evaporator,
or heater core in my '78 Bronco. Both my '84 and '89 Bird's heater
failed. :-( In Kalifornia we don't need a no stinkin' heater, but it
would be nice to be able to remove the condensed water from the inside
of my windshields.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> My niece had a Ford with a water leak behind the dash. They suspected a
> clogged drain or windshield leak but it wasn't the windshield and repeated
> clearings had no effect and they eventually decided to remove the dash....
>
> Removal of the dash was a ten (10) hour job at $75/hr + diagnosis and repair
> of the problem.
>
> She decided to just live with the leak...
>
> It is a shame that the vehicles today are designed to be unrepairable
It wasn't that may years ago when we could access the whole unit
from the engine side. About four bolts and I can change the evaporator,
or heater core in my '78 Bronco. Both my '84 and '89 Bird's heater
failed. :-( In Kalifornia we don't need a no stinkin' heater, but it
would be nice to be able to remove the condensed water from the inside
of my windshields.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> My niece had a Ford with a water leak behind the dash. They suspected a
> clogged drain or windshield leak but it wasn't the windshield and repeated
> clearings had no effect and they eventually decided to remove the dash....
>
> Removal of the dash was a ten (10) hour job at $75/hr + diagnosis and repair
> of the problem.
>
> She decided to just live with the leak...
>
> It is a shame that the vehicles today are designed to be unrepairable
03-19-2006 | 06:18 PM
#73
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Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Hi Bill,
It wasn't that may years ago when we could access the whole unit
from the engine side. About four bolts and I can change the evaporator,
or heater core in my '78 Bronco. Both my '84 and '89 Bird's heater
failed. :-( In Kalifornia we don't need a no stinkin' heater, but it
would be nice to be able to remove the condensed water from the inside
of my windshields.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> My niece had a Ford with a water leak behind the dash. They suspected a
> clogged drain or windshield leak but it wasn't the windshield and repeated
> clearings had no effect and they eventually decided to remove the dash....
>
> Removal of the dash was a ten (10) hour job at $75/hr + diagnosis and repair
> of the problem.
>
> She decided to just live with the leak...
>
> It is a shame that the vehicles today are designed to be unrepairable
It wasn't that may years ago when we could access the whole unit
from the engine side. About four bolts and I can change the evaporator,
or heater core in my '78 Bronco. Both my '84 and '89 Bird's heater
failed. :-( In Kalifornia we don't need a no stinkin' heater, but it
would be nice to be able to remove the condensed water from the inside
of my windshields.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> My niece had a Ford with a water leak behind the dash. They suspected a
> clogged drain or windshield leak but it wasn't the windshield and repeated
> clearings had no effect and they eventually decided to remove the dash....
>
> Removal of the dash was a ten (10) hour job at $75/hr + diagnosis and repair
> of the problem.
>
> She decided to just live with the leak...
>
> It is a shame that the vehicles today are designed to be unrepairable
03-19-2006 | 06:42 PM
#74
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Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
That's not the part of So. California I came from. Down in the
twenties many times in the winter. Smudge pots and later wind
machines for the citrus groves. When I was in high school we covered
our engines at night with blankets. Of course I suppose people in
Alaska could do without a heater too, but.....................
----
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:18:32 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
>Hi Bill,
> It wasn't that may years ago when we could access the whole unit
>from the engine side. About four bolts and I can change the evaporator,
>or heater core in my '78 Bronco. Both my '84 and '89 Bird's heater
>failed. :-( In Kalifornia we don't need a no stinkin' heater, but it
>would be nice to be able to remove the condensed water from the inside
>of my windshields.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twenties many times in the winter. Smudge pots and later wind
machines for the citrus groves. When I was in high school we covered
our engines at night with blankets. Of course I suppose people in
Alaska could do without a heater too, but.....................
----
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:18:32 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
>Hi Bill,
> It wasn't that may years ago when we could access the whole unit
>from the engine side. About four bolts and I can change the evaporator,
>or heater core in my '78 Bronco. Both my '84 and '89 Bird's heater
>failed. :-( In Kalifornia we don't need a no stinkin' heater, but it
>would be nice to be able to remove the condensed water from the inside
>of my windshields.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
03-19-2006 | 06:42 PM
#75
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Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
That's not the part of So. California I came from. Down in the
twenties many times in the winter. Smudge pots and later wind
machines for the citrus groves. When I was in high school we covered
our engines at night with blankets. Of course I suppose people in
Alaska could do without a heater too, but.....................
----
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:18:32 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
>Hi Bill,
> It wasn't that may years ago when we could access the whole unit
>from the engine side. About four bolts and I can change the evaporator,
>or heater core in my '78 Bronco. Both my '84 and '89 Bird's heater
>failed. :-( In Kalifornia we don't need a no stinkin' heater, but it
>would be nice to be able to remove the condensed water from the inside
>of my windshields.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twenties many times in the winter. Smudge pots and later wind
machines for the citrus groves. When I was in high school we covered
our engines at night with blankets. Of course I suppose people in
Alaska could do without a heater too, but.....................
----
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:18:32 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
>Hi Bill,
> It wasn't that may years ago when we could access the whole unit
>from the engine side. About four bolts and I can change the evaporator,
>or heater core in my '78 Bronco. Both my '84 and '89 Bird's heater
>failed. :-( In Kalifornia we don't need a no stinkin' heater, but it
>would be nice to be able to remove the condensed water from the inside
>of my windshields.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
03-19-2006 | 06:42 PM
#76
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Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
That's not the part of So. California I came from. Down in the
twenties many times in the winter. Smudge pots and later wind
machines for the citrus groves. When I was in high school we covered
our engines at night with blankets. Of course I suppose people in
Alaska could do without a heater too, but.....................
----
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:18:32 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
>Hi Bill,
> It wasn't that may years ago when we could access the whole unit
>from the engine side. About four bolts and I can change the evaporator,
>or heater core in my '78 Bronco. Both my '84 and '89 Bird's heater
>failed. :-( In Kalifornia we don't need a no stinkin' heater, but it
>would be nice to be able to remove the condensed water from the inside
>of my windshields.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twenties many times in the winter. Smudge pots and later wind
machines for the citrus groves. When I was in high school we covered
our engines at night with blankets. Of course I suppose people in
Alaska could do without a heater too, but.....................
----
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:18:32 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
>Hi Bill,
> It wasn't that may years ago when we could access the whole unit
>from the engine side. About four bolts and I can change the evaporator,
>or heater core in my '78 Bronco. Both my '84 and '89 Bird's heater
>failed. :-( In Kalifornia we don't need a no stinkin' heater, but it
>would be nice to be able to remove the condensed water from the inside
>of my windshields.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
03-19-2006 | 06:42 PM
#77
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Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
That's not the part of So. California I came from. Down in the
twenties many times in the winter. Smudge pots and later wind
machines for the citrus groves. When I was in high school we covered
our engines at night with blankets. Of course I suppose people in
Alaska could do without a heater too, but.....................
----
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:18:32 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
>Hi Bill,
> It wasn't that may years ago when we could access the whole unit
>from the engine side. About four bolts and I can change the evaporator,
>or heater core in my '78 Bronco. Both my '84 and '89 Bird's heater
>failed. :-( In Kalifornia we don't need a no stinkin' heater, but it
>would be nice to be able to remove the condensed water from the inside
>of my windshields.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
twenties many times in the winter. Smudge pots and later wind
machines for the citrus groves. When I was in high school we covered
our engines at night with blankets. Of course I suppose people in
Alaska could do without a heater too, but.....................
----
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:18:32 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
>Hi Bill,
> It wasn't that may years ago when we could access the whole unit
>from the engine side. About four bolts and I can change the evaporator,
>or heater core in my '78 Bronco. Both my '84 and '89 Bird's heater
>failed. :-( In Kalifornia we don't need a no stinkin' heater, but it
>would be nice to be able to remove the condensed water from the inside
>of my windshields.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
03-19-2006 | 07:23 PM
#78
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Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That is
what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to him
he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree, you
can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was screaming
so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to listen
to me.
This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty hard
questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby, politics.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> Why insert them at all?
> Did they all suffer from retention?
> Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and
a
> > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
"emergency
> > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> > He
> > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> > next
> > mistake.
> >
> > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> > order?
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
> >> and
> >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> > that
> >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > mechanics.
> >>
> >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
(BSN-RNs).
> >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
their
> >> name improves their competence.....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> >> >
> >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> > bac!!!!
> >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> >> >>
> >> >> billy ray wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> >> > complete
> >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build
you
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case
of
> >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from
a
> >> > patio
> >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That's the difference..
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> > Service
> >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection
of
> > the
> >> > rear
> >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
crimped
> >> > hose
> >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> > then
> >> >> > > while
> >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> > the
> >> >> > > system
> >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > interesting
> >> > too.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> > O-rings
> >> > and
> >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> > the
> >> > rest
> >> >> > > are getting ready.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
"real
> >> >> > > mechanic"
> >> >> > >> for a leak test
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
about
> >> >> > >> >four
> >> >> > > years
> >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and
they
> >> > fixed
> >> >> > >> >it
> >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> > worked
> >> > fine
> >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
bought
> > a
> >> >> > > recharge
> >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > stopped
> >> >> > > cooling
> >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> > about
> >> > a
> >> >> > > week
> >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> > plan
> >> > on
> >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Marcel
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to him
he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree, you
can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was screaming
so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to listen
to me.
This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty hard
questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby, politics.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> Why insert them at all?
> Did they all suffer from retention?
> Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and
a
> > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
"emergency
> > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> > He
> > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> > next
> > mistake.
> >
> > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> > order?
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
> >> and
> >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> > that
> >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > mechanics.
> >>
> >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
(BSN-RNs).
> >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
their
> >> name improves their competence.....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> >> >
> >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> > bac!!!!
> >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> >> >>
> >> >> billy ray wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> >> > complete
> >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build
you
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case
of
> >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from
a
> >> > patio
> >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That's the difference..
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> > Service
> >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection
of
> > the
> >> > rear
> >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
crimped
> >> > hose
> >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> > then
> >> >> > > while
> >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> > the
> >> >> > > system
> >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > interesting
> >> > too.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> > O-rings
> >> > and
> >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> > the
> >> > rest
> >> >> > > are getting ready.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
"real
> >> >> > > mechanic"
> >> >> > >> for a leak test
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
about
> >> >> > >> >four
> >> >> > > years
> >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and
they
> >> > fixed
> >> >> > >> >it
> >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> > worked
> >> > fine
> >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
bought
> > a
> >> >> > > recharge
> >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > stopped
> >> >> > > cooling
> >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> > about
> >> > a
> >> >> > > week
> >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> > plan
> >> > on
> >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Marcel
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
03-19-2006 | 07:23 PM
#79
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That is
what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to him
he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree, you
can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was screaming
so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to listen
to me.
This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty hard
questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby, politics.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> Why insert them at all?
> Did they all suffer from retention?
> Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and
a
> > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
"emergency
> > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> > He
> > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> > next
> > mistake.
> >
> > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> > order?
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
> >> and
> >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> > that
> >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > mechanics.
> >>
> >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
(BSN-RNs).
> >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
their
> >> name improves their competence.....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> >> >
> >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> > bac!!!!
> >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> >> >>
> >> >> billy ray wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> >> > complete
> >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build
you
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case
of
> >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from
a
> >> > patio
> >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That's the difference..
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> > Service
> >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection
of
> > the
> >> > rear
> >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
crimped
> >> > hose
> >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> > then
> >> >> > > while
> >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> > the
> >> >> > > system
> >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > interesting
> >> > too.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> > O-rings
> >> > and
> >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> > the
> >> > rest
> >> >> > > are getting ready.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
"real
> >> >> > > mechanic"
> >> >> > >> for a leak test
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
about
> >> >> > >> >four
> >> >> > > years
> >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and
they
> >> > fixed
> >> >> > >> >it
> >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> > worked
> >> > fine
> >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
bought
> > a
> >> >> > > recharge
> >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > stopped
> >> >> > > cooling
> >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> > about
> >> > a
> >> >> > > week
> >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> > plan
> >> > on
> >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Marcel
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to him
he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree, you
can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was screaming
so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to listen
to me.
This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty hard
questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby, politics.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> Why insert them at all?
> Did they all suffer from retention?
> Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and
a
> > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
"emergency
> > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> > He
> > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> > next
> > mistake.
> >
> > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> > order?
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
> >> and
> >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> > that
> >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > mechanics.
> >>
> >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
(BSN-RNs).
> >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
their
> >> name improves their competence.....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> >> >
> >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> > bac!!!!
> >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> >> >>
> >> >> billy ray wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> >> > complete
> >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build
you
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case
of
> >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from
a
> >> > patio
> >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That's the difference..
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> > Service
> >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection
of
> > the
> >> > rear
> >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
crimped
> >> > hose
> >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> > then
> >> >> > > while
> >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> > the
> >> >> > > system
> >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > interesting
> >> > too.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> > O-rings
> >> > and
> >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> > the
> >> > rest
> >> >> > > are getting ready.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
"real
> >> >> > > mechanic"
> >> >> > >> for a leak test
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
about
> >> >> > >> >four
> >> >> > > years
> >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and
they
> >> > fixed
> >> >> > >> >it
> >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> > worked
> >> > fine
> >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
bought
> > a
> >> >> > > recharge
> >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > stopped
> >> >> > > cooling
> >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> > about
> >> > a
> >> >> > > week
> >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> > plan
> >> > on
> >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Marcel
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
03-19-2006 | 07:23 PM
#80
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That is
what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to him
he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree, you
can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was screaming
so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to listen
to me.
This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty hard
questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby, politics.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> Why insert them at all?
> Did they all suffer from retention?
> Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and
a
> > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
"emergency
> > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> > He
> > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> > next
> > mistake.
> >
> > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> > order?
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
> >> and
> >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> > that
> >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > mechanics.
> >>
> >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
(BSN-RNs).
> >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
their
> >> name improves their competence.....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> >> >
> >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> > bac!!!!
> >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> >> >>
> >> >> billy ray wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> >> > complete
> >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build
you
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case
of
> >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from
a
> >> > patio
> >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That's the difference..
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> > Service
> >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection
of
> > the
> >> > rear
> >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
crimped
> >> > hose
> >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> > then
> >> >> > > while
> >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> > the
> >> >> > > system
> >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > interesting
> >> > too.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> > O-rings
> >> > and
> >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> > the
> >> > rest
> >> >> > > are getting ready.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
"real
> >> >> > > mechanic"
> >> >> > >> for a leak test
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
about
> >> >> > >> >four
> >> >> > > years
> >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and
they
> >> > fixed
> >> >> > >> >it
> >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> > worked
> >> > fine
> >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
bought
> > a
> >> >> > > recharge
> >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > stopped
> >> >> > > cooling
> >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> > about
> >> > a
> >> >> > > week
> >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> > plan
> >> > on
> >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Marcel
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to him
he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree, you
can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was screaming
so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to listen
to me.
This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty hard
questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby, politics.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> Why insert them at all?
> Did they all suffer from retention?
> Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and
a
> > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
"emergency
> > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> > He
> > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> > next
> > mistake.
> >
> > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> > order?
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
> >> and
> >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> > that
> >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > mechanics.
> >>
> >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
(BSN-RNs).
> >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
their
> >> name improves their competence.....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> >> >
> >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> >> >
> >> > Earle
> >> >
> >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> > bac!!!!
> >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> >> >>
> >> >> billy ray wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> >> > complete
> >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build
you
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case
of
> >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from
a
> >> > patio
> >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That's the difference..
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> > Service
> >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection
of
> > the
> >> > rear
> >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
crimped
> >> > hose
> >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> > then
> >> >> > > while
> >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> > the
> >> >> > > system
> >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > interesting
> >> > too.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> > O-rings
> >> > and
> >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> > the
> >> > rest
> >> >> > > are getting ready.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Earle
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
"real
> >> >> > > mechanic"
> >> >> > >> for a leak test
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
about
> >> >> > >> >four
> >> >> > > years
> >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and
they
> >> > fixed
> >> >> > >> >it
> >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> > worked
> >> > fine
> >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
bought
> > a
> >> >> > > recharge
> >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > stopped
> >> >> > > cooling
> >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> > about
> >> > a
> >> >> > > week
> >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> > plan
> >> > on
> >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Marcel
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
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