'96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
03-20-2006 | 12:08 AM
#121
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Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
For the past forty years I've lived in Vista, Kalifornia, the
climate capital of the world. according to our Chamber of Commerce:
http://www.vistachamber.org/
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
---- wrote:
>
> I wish I had your constitution Bill. As I get older, I get colder.
> Heated car seats are almost necessary now.
>
> ----
climate capital of the world. according to our Chamber of Commerce:
http://www.vistachamber.org/
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
---- wrote:
>
> I wish I had your constitution Bill. As I get older, I get colder.
> Heated car seats are almost necessary now.
>
> ----
03-20-2006 | 10:02 AM
#122
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Re: Off Topic '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Bill,
Things have come a long way since funeral home ambulance services, but they
have a long way to go yet. You should be proud to live in Kalifornia. They
police their own, and clean house when necessary. You are probably
justified in saying that your paramedics are "heroes", but only because the
bad apples have been removed from the barrel. And this is due in large part
to funds voted by your bleeding heart liberal politicians, and your state
government that many think is over regulated and top heavy.
In Colorado we have an address where we can send complaints, and a guy who
reads them, but that is as far as it goes. There is no money for
investigation or prosecution of wrong doers, and employers are not even
required, to report to the EMS division, when they discipline a paramedic
for misconduct. Maybe the EMS division will cancel your certificate, if you
are convicted of a felony, and you voluntarily check the box for that on
your reapplication.
There is a "blue wall" of silence too, that acts to protect wrong doers,
just as there is in police and fire. Just like on the cop shows.
Don't worry though. Statistics is on your side. The vast majority of these
guys are honest, genuinely want to help, and don't try to play God on the
ambulance. That's not true in Silverton though.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441E355D.C08B650@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> Bummer!
> That reminds me, my family had a friend that own an ambulance
> service, that once told us he made the decision as to whether the
> accident victim went to the hospital or mortuary where he got a
> kickback, via a hammer. I remember my brother took the first aid
> training then required to sit in the back with the victim. Then work for
> a week just answering the phone, except for the last day he rode along
> and quit.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Then don't look here.
> >
> > http://www.emsa.cahwnet.gov/para/enforcement.asp
> >
> > Earle
Things have come a long way since funeral home ambulance services, but they
have a long way to go yet. You should be proud to live in Kalifornia. They
police their own, and clean house when necessary. You are probably
justified in saying that your paramedics are "heroes", but only because the
bad apples have been removed from the barrel. And this is due in large part
to funds voted by your bleeding heart liberal politicians, and your state
government that many think is over regulated and top heavy.
In Colorado we have an address where we can send complaints, and a guy who
reads them, but that is as far as it goes. There is no money for
investigation or prosecution of wrong doers, and employers are not even
required, to report to the EMS division, when they discipline a paramedic
for misconduct. Maybe the EMS division will cancel your certificate, if you
are convicted of a felony, and you voluntarily check the box for that on
your reapplication.
There is a "blue wall" of silence too, that acts to protect wrong doers,
just as there is in police and fire. Just like on the cop shows.
Don't worry though. Statistics is on your side. The vast majority of these
guys are honest, genuinely want to help, and don't try to play God on the
ambulance. That's not true in Silverton though.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441E355D.C08B650@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> Bummer!
> That reminds me, my family had a friend that own an ambulance
> service, that once told us he made the decision as to whether the
> accident victim went to the hospital or mortuary where he got a
> kickback, via a hammer. I remember my brother took the first aid
> training then required to sit in the back with the victim. Then work for
> a week just answering the phone, except for the last day he rode along
> and quit.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Then don't look here.
> >
> > http://www.emsa.cahwnet.gov/para/enforcement.asp
> >
> > Earle
03-20-2006 | 10:02 AM
#123
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Re: Off Topic '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Bill,
Things have come a long way since funeral home ambulance services, but they
have a long way to go yet. You should be proud to live in Kalifornia. They
police their own, and clean house when necessary. You are probably
justified in saying that your paramedics are "heroes", but only because the
bad apples have been removed from the barrel. And this is due in large part
to funds voted by your bleeding heart liberal politicians, and your state
government that many think is over regulated and top heavy.
In Colorado we have an address where we can send complaints, and a guy who
reads them, but that is as far as it goes. There is no money for
investigation or prosecution of wrong doers, and employers are not even
required, to report to the EMS division, when they discipline a paramedic
for misconduct. Maybe the EMS division will cancel your certificate, if you
are convicted of a felony, and you voluntarily check the box for that on
your reapplication.
There is a "blue wall" of silence too, that acts to protect wrong doers,
just as there is in police and fire. Just like on the cop shows.
Don't worry though. Statistics is on your side. The vast majority of these
guys are honest, genuinely want to help, and don't try to play God on the
ambulance. That's not true in Silverton though.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441E355D.C08B650@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> Bummer!
> That reminds me, my family had a friend that own an ambulance
> service, that once told us he made the decision as to whether the
> accident victim went to the hospital or mortuary where he got a
> kickback, via a hammer. I remember my brother took the first aid
> training then required to sit in the back with the victim. Then work for
> a week just answering the phone, except for the last day he rode along
> and quit.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Then don't look here.
> >
> > http://www.emsa.cahwnet.gov/para/enforcement.asp
> >
> > Earle
Things have come a long way since funeral home ambulance services, but they
have a long way to go yet. You should be proud to live in Kalifornia. They
police their own, and clean house when necessary. You are probably
justified in saying that your paramedics are "heroes", but only because the
bad apples have been removed from the barrel. And this is due in large part
to funds voted by your bleeding heart liberal politicians, and your state
government that many think is over regulated and top heavy.
In Colorado we have an address where we can send complaints, and a guy who
reads them, but that is as far as it goes. There is no money for
investigation or prosecution of wrong doers, and employers are not even
required, to report to the EMS division, when they discipline a paramedic
for misconduct. Maybe the EMS division will cancel your certificate, if you
are convicted of a felony, and you voluntarily check the box for that on
your reapplication.
There is a "blue wall" of silence too, that acts to protect wrong doers,
just as there is in police and fire. Just like on the cop shows.
Don't worry though. Statistics is on your side. The vast majority of these
guys are honest, genuinely want to help, and don't try to play God on the
ambulance. That's not true in Silverton though.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441E355D.C08B650@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> Bummer!
> That reminds me, my family had a friend that own an ambulance
> service, that once told us he made the decision as to whether the
> accident victim went to the hospital or mortuary where he got a
> kickback, via a hammer. I remember my brother took the first aid
> training then required to sit in the back with the victim. Then work for
> a week just answering the phone, except for the last day he rode along
> and quit.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Then don't look here.
> >
> > http://www.emsa.cahwnet.gov/para/enforcement.asp
> >
> > Earle
03-20-2006 | 10:02 AM
#124
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Re: Off Topic '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Bill,
Things have come a long way since funeral home ambulance services, but they
have a long way to go yet. You should be proud to live in Kalifornia. They
police their own, and clean house when necessary. You are probably
justified in saying that your paramedics are "heroes", but only because the
bad apples have been removed from the barrel. And this is due in large part
to funds voted by your bleeding heart liberal politicians, and your state
government that many think is over regulated and top heavy.
In Colorado we have an address where we can send complaints, and a guy who
reads them, but that is as far as it goes. There is no money for
investigation or prosecution of wrong doers, and employers are not even
required, to report to the EMS division, when they discipline a paramedic
for misconduct. Maybe the EMS division will cancel your certificate, if you
are convicted of a felony, and you voluntarily check the box for that on
your reapplication.
There is a "blue wall" of silence too, that acts to protect wrong doers,
just as there is in police and fire. Just like on the cop shows.
Don't worry though. Statistics is on your side. The vast majority of these
guys are honest, genuinely want to help, and don't try to play God on the
ambulance. That's not true in Silverton though.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441E355D.C08B650@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> Bummer!
> That reminds me, my family had a friend that own an ambulance
> service, that once told us he made the decision as to whether the
> accident victim went to the hospital or mortuary where he got a
> kickback, via a hammer. I remember my brother took the first aid
> training then required to sit in the back with the victim. Then work for
> a week just answering the phone, except for the last day he rode along
> and quit.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Then don't look here.
> >
> > http://www.emsa.cahwnet.gov/para/enforcement.asp
> >
> > Earle
Things have come a long way since funeral home ambulance services, but they
have a long way to go yet. You should be proud to live in Kalifornia. They
police their own, and clean house when necessary. You are probably
justified in saying that your paramedics are "heroes", but only because the
bad apples have been removed from the barrel. And this is due in large part
to funds voted by your bleeding heart liberal politicians, and your state
government that many think is over regulated and top heavy.
In Colorado we have an address where we can send complaints, and a guy who
reads them, but that is as far as it goes. There is no money for
investigation or prosecution of wrong doers, and employers are not even
required, to report to the EMS division, when they discipline a paramedic
for misconduct. Maybe the EMS division will cancel your certificate, if you
are convicted of a felony, and you voluntarily check the box for that on
your reapplication.
There is a "blue wall" of silence too, that acts to protect wrong doers,
just as there is in police and fire. Just like on the cop shows.
Don't worry though. Statistics is on your side. The vast majority of these
guys are honest, genuinely want to help, and don't try to play God on the
ambulance. That's not true in Silverton though.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441E355D.C08B650@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> Bummer!
> That reminds me, my family had a friend that own an ambulance
> service, that once told us he made the decision as to whether the
> accident victim went to the hospital or mortuary where he got a
> kickback, via a hammer. I remember my brother took the first aid
> training then required to sit in the back with the victim. Then work for
> a week just answering the phone, except for the last day he rode along
> and quit.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Then don't look here.
> >
> > http://www.emsa.cahwnet.gov/para/enforcement.asp
> >
> > Earle
03-20-2006 | 10:02 AM
#125
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Re: Off Topic '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Bill,
Things have come a long way since funeral home ambulance services, but they
have a long way to go yet. You should be proud to live in Kalifornia. They
police their own, and clean house when necessary. You are probably
justified in saying that your paramedics are "heroes", but only because the
bad apples have been removed from the barrel. And this is due in large part
to funds voted by your bleeding heart liberal politicians, and your state
government that many think is over regulated and top heavy.
In Colorado we have an address where we can send complaints, and a guy who
reads them, but that is as far as it goes. There is no money for
investigation or prosecution of wrong doers, and employers are not even
required, to report to the EMS division, when they discipline a paramedic
for misconduct. Maybe the EMS division will cancel your certificate, if you
are convicted of a felony, and you voluntarily check the box for that on
your reapplication.
There is a "blue wall" of silence too, that acts to protect wrong doers,
just as there is in police and fire. Just like on the cop shows.
Don't worry though. Statistics is on your side. The vast majority of these
guys are honest, genuinely want to help, and don't try to play God on the
ambulance. That's not true in Silverton though.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441E355D.C08B650@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> Bummer!
> That reminds me, my family had a friend that own an ambulance
> service, that once told us he made the decision as to whether the
> accident victim went to the hospital or mortuary where he got a
> kickback, via a hammer. I remember my brother took the first aid
> training then required to sit in the back with the victim. Then work for
> a week just answering the phone, except for the last day he rode along
> and quit.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Then don't look here.
> >
> > http://www.emsa.cahwnet.gov/para/enforcement.asp
> >
> > Earle
Things have come a long way since funeral home ambulance services, but they
have a long way to go yet. You should be proud to live in Kalifornia. They
police their own, and clean house when necessary. You are probably
justified in saying that your paramedics are "heroes", but only because the
bad apples have been removed from the barrel. And this is due in large part
to funds voted by your bleeding heart liberal politicians, and your state
government that many think is over regulated and top heavy.
In Colorado we have an address where we can send complaints, and a guy who
reads them, but that is as far as it goes. There is no money for
investigation or prosecution of wrong doers, and employers are not even
required, to report to the EMS division, when they discipline a paramedic
for misconduct. Maybe the EMS division will cancel your certificate, if you
are convicted of a felony, and you voluntarily check the box for that on
your reapplication.
There is a "blue wall" of silence too, that acts to protect wrong doers,
just as there is in police and fire. Just like on the cop shows.
Don't worry though. Statistics is on your side. The vast majority of these
guys are honest, genuinely want to help, and don't try to play God on the
ambulance. That's not true in Silverton though.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441E355D.C08B650@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> Bummer!
> That reminds me, my family had a friend that own an ambulance
> service, that once told us he made the decision as to whether the
> accident victim went to the hospital or mortuary where he got a
> kickback, via a hammer. I remember my brother took the first aid
> training then required to sit in the back with the victim. Then work for
> a week just answering the phone, except for the last day he rode along
> and quit.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Then don't look here.
> >
> > http://www.emsa.cahwnet.gov/para/enforcement.asp
> >
> > Earle
03-20-2006 | 06:35 PM
#126
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Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
there is a known issue with the evap./ coils leaking and thats under the dash
which would require the dash come out to replace if that is the issue and i have
done hundreds at one time it was under a extended warranty u might check out
that route
"L.W. (Bill) ------" wrote:
> Hi Earle,
> It's too bad some car don't advertise their assemble lines take the time
> to use flared nuts to bolt everything together to see if their sales don't
> go up enough to make it cost effective. As anyone knows the AC's retaining
> springs alone give up under dusty conditions in no time at all.
> God Bless America, L.W(Bill) ------ III 0|||||||0
>
> Mailto:LW------3rd http://----------.com/
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441cdc75$0$21248$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Part of the problem is that you can't work on AC for money without a fancy
> > charging station and an even fancier EPA permit. This prevents the two
> > mechanics in town from doing any AC work. I don't have a commercial
> > business, but the two installations I did for myself more than paid for
> the
> > vacuum pump and set of gauges I bought. Don't ask me what happened to the
> > waste refrigerant. It must have all leaked out.
> >
> > O-rings are 90% of the problem. It is false economy to save a few dollars
> > on each system, while giving your customers years and years of repair bill
> > headache.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:4cc93$441cb94a$4831b233$26769@FUSE.NET...
> > > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >
> > > What is the difference you ask?
> > >
> > > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> complete
> > > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> > > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >
> > > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> > > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> patio
> > > set to an ocean liner...
> > >
> > > That's the difference..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> > > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
> > rear
> > > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> hose
> > > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> > > > while
> > > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> > > > system
> > > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
> > too.
> > > >
> > > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
> > and
> > > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
> > rest
> > > > are getting ready.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> > > > mechanic"
> > > >> for a leak test
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> > > > years
> > > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> fixed
> > > >> >it
> > > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
> > fine
> > > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> > > > recharge
> > > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> > > > cooling
> > > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about
> a
> > > > week
> > > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan
> on
> > > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Marcel
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
which would require the dash come out to replace if that is the issue and i have
done hundreds at one time it was under a extended warranty u might check out
that route
"L.W. (Bill) ------" wrote:
> Hi Earle,
> It's too bad some car don't advertise their assemble lines take the time
> to use flared nuts to bolt everything together to see if their sales don't
> go up enough to make it cost effective. As anyone knows the AC's retaining
> springs alone give up under dusty conditions in no time at all.
> God Bless America, L.W(Bill) ------ III 0|||||||0
>
> Mailto:LW------3rd http://----------.com/
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441cdc75$0$21248$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Part of the problem is that you can't work on AC for money without a fancy
> > charging station and an even fancier EPA permit. This prevents the two
> > mechanics in town from doing any AC work. I don't have a commercial
> > business, but the two installations I did for myself more than paid for
> the
> > vacuum pump and set of gauges I bought. Don't ask me what happened to the
> > waste refrigerant. It must have all leaked out.
> >
> > O-rings are 90% of the problem. It is false economy to save a few dollars
> > on each system, while giving your customers years and years of repair bill
> > headache.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:4cc93$441cb94a$4831b233$26769@FUSE.NET...
> > > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >
> > > What is the difference you ask?
> > >
> > > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> complete
> > > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> > > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >
> > > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> > > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> patio
> > > set to an ocean liner...
> > >
> > > That's the difference..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> > > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
> > rear
> > > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> hose
> > > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> > > > while
> > > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> > > > system
> > > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
> > too.
> > > >
> > > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
> > and
> > > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
> > rest
> > > > are getting ready.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> > > > mechanic"
> > > >> for a leak test
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> > > > years
> > > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> fixed
> > > >> >it
> > > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
> > fine
> > > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> > > > recharge
> > > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> > > > cooling
> > > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about
> a
> > > > week
> > > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan
> on
> > > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Marcel
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
03-20-2006 | 06:35 PM
#127
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Posts: n/a
Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
there is a known issue with the evap./ coils leaking and thats under the dash
which would require the dash come out to replace if that is the issue and i have
done hundreds at one time it was under a extended warranty u might check out
that route
"L.W. (Bill) ------" wrote:
> Hi Earle,
> It's too bad some car don't advertise their assemble lines take the time
> to use flared nuts to bolt everything together to see if their sales don't
> go up enough to make it cost effective. As anyone knows the AC's retaining
> springs alone give up under dusty conditions in no time at all.
> God Bless America, L.W(Bill) ------ III 0|||||||0
>
> Mailto:LW------3rd http://----------.com/
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441cdc75$0$21248$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Part of the problem is that you can't work on AC for money without a fancy
> > charging station and an even fancier EPA permit. This prevents the two
> > mechanics in town from doing any AC work. I don't have a commercial
> > business, but the two installations I did for myself more than paid for
> the
> > vacuum pump and set of gauges I bought. Don't ask me what happened to the
> > waste refrigerant. It must have all leaked out.
> >
> > O-rings are 90% of the problem. It is false economy to save a few dollars
> > on each system, while giving your customers years and years of repair bill
> > headache.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:4cc93$441cb94a$4831b233$26769@FUSE.NET...
> > > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >
> > > What is the difference you ask?
> > >
> > > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> complete
> > > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> > > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >
> > > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> > > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> patio
> > > set to an ocean liner...
> > >
> > > That's the difference..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> > > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
> > rear
> > > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> hose
> > > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> > > > while
> > > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> > > > system
> > > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
> > too.
> > > >
> > > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
> > and
> > > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
> > rest
> > > > are getting ready.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> > > > mechanic"
> > > >> for a leak test
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> > > > years
> > > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> fixed
> > > >> >it
> > > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
> > fine
> > > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> > > > recharge
> > > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> > > > cooling
> > > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about
> a
> > > > week
> > > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan
> on
> > > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Marcel
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
which would require the dash come out to replace if that is the issue and i have
done hundreds at one time it was under a extended warranty u might check out
that route
"L.W. (Bill) ------" wrote:
> Hi Earle,
> It's too bad some car don't advertise their assemble lines take the time
> to use flared nuts to bolt everything together to see if their sales don't
> go up enough to make it cost effective. As anyone knows the AC's retaining
> springs alone give up under dusty conditions in no time at all.
> God Bless America, L.W(Bill) ------ III 0|||||||0
>
> Mailto:LW------3rd http://----------.com/
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441cdc75$0$21248$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Part of the problem is that you can't work on AC for money without a fancy
> > charging station and an even fancier EPA permit. This prevents the two
> > mechanics in town from doing any AC work. I don't have a commercial
> > business, but the two installations I did for myself more than paid for
> the
> > vacuum pump and set of gauges I bought. Don't ask me what happened to the
> > waste refrigerant. It must have all leaked out.
> >
> > O-rings are 90% of the problem. It is false economy to save a few dollars
> > on each system, while giving your customers years and years of repair bill
> > headache.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:4cc93$441cb94a$4831b233$26769@FUSE.NET...
> > > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >
> > > What is the difference you ask?
> > >
> > > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> complete
> > > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> > > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >
> > > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> > > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> patio
> > > set to an ocean liner...
> > >
> > > That's the difference..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> > > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
> > rear
> > > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> hose
> > > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> > > > while
> > > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> > > > system
> > > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
> > too.
> > > >
> > > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
> > and
> > > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
> > rest
> > > > are getting ready.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> > > > mechanic"
> > > >> for a leak test
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> > > > years
> > > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> fixed
> > > >> >it
> > > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
> > fine
> > > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> > > > recharge
> > > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> > > > cooling
> > > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about
> a
> > > > week
> > > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan
> on
> > > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Marcel
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
03-20-2006 | 06:35 PM
#128
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
there is a known issue with the evap./ coils leaking and thats under the dash
which would require the dash come out to replace if that is the issue and i have
done hundreds at one time it was under a extended warranty u might check out
that route
"L.W. (Bill) ------" wrote:
> Hi Earle,
> It's too bad some car don't advertise their assemble lines take the time
> to use flared nuts to bolt everything together to see if their sales don't
> go up enough to make it cost effective. As anyone knows the AC's retaining
> springs alone give up under dusty conditions in no time at all.
> God Bless America, L.W(Bill) ------ III 0|||||||0
>
> Mailto:LW------3rd http://----------.com/
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441cdc75$0$21248$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Part of the problem is that you can't work on AC for money without a fancy
> > charging station and an even fancier EPA permit. This prevents the two
> > mechanics in town from doing any AC work. I don't have a commercial
> > business, but the two installations I did for myself more than paid for
> the
> > vacuum pump and set of gauges I bought. Don't ask me what happened to the
> > waste refrigerant. It must have all leaked out.
> >
> > O-rings are 90% of the problem. It is false economy to save a few dollars
> > on each system, while giving your customers years and years of repair bill
> > headache.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:4cc93$441cb94a$4831b233$26769@FUSE.NET...
> > > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >
> > > What is the difference you ask?
> > >
> > > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> complete
> > > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> > > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >
> > > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> > > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> patio
> > > set to an ocean liner...
> > >
> > > That's the difference..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> > > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
> > rear
> > > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> hose
> > > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> > > > while
> > > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> > > > system
> > > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
> > too.
> > > >
> > > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
> > and
> > > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
> > rest
> > > > are getting ready.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> > > > mechanic"
> > > >> for a leak test
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> > > > years
> > > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> fixed
> > > >> >it
> > > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
> > fine
> > > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> > > > recharge
> > > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> > > > cooling
> > > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about
> a
> > > > week
> > > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan
> on
> > > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Marcel
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
which would require the dash come out to replace if that is the issue and i have
done hundreds at one time it was under a extended warranty u might check out
that route
"L.W. (Bill) ------" wrote:
> Hi Earle,
> It's too bad some car don't advertise their assemble lines take the time
> to use flared nuts to bolt everything together to see if their sales don't
> go up enough to make it cost effective. As anyone knows the AC's retaining
> springs alone give up under dusty conditions in no time at all.
> God Bless America, L.W(Bill) ------ III 0|||||||0
>
> Mailto:LW------3rd http://----------.com/
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441cdc75$0$21248$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Part of the problem is that you can't work on AC for money without a fancy
> > charging station and an even fancier EPA permit. This prevents the two
> > mechanics in town from doing any AC work. I don't have a commercial
> > business, but the two installations I did for myself more than paid for
> the
> > vacuum pump and set of gauges I bought. Don't ask me what happened to the
> > waste refrigerant. It must have all leaked out.
> >
> > O-rings are 90% of the problem. It is false economy to save a few dollars
> > on each system, while giving your customers years and years of repair bill
> > headache.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:4cc93$441cb94a$4831b233$26769@FUSE.NET...
> > > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >
> > > What is the difference you ask?
> > >
> > > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> complete
> > > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> > > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >
> > > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> > > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> patio
> > > set to an ocean liner...
> > >
> > > That's the difference..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> > > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
> > rear
> > > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> hose
> > > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> > > > while
> > > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> > > > system
> > > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
> > too.
> > > >
> > > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
> > and
> > > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
> > rest
> > > > are getting ready.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> > > > mechanic"
> > > >> for a leak test
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> > > > years
> > > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> fixed
> > > >> >it
> > > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
> > fine
> > > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> > > > recharge
> > > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> > > > cooling
> > > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about
> a
> > > > week
> > > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan
> on
> > > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Marcel
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
03-20-2006 | 06:35 PM
#129
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
there is a known issue with the evap./ coils leaking and thats under the dash
which would require the dash come out to replace if that is the issue and i have
done hundreds at one time it was under a extended warranty u might check out
that route
"L.W. (Bill) ------" wrote:
> Hi Earle,
> It's too bad some car don't advertise their assemble lines take the time
> to use flared nuts to bolt everything together to see if their sales don't
> go up enough to make it cost effective. As anyone knows the AC's retaining
> springs alone give up under dusty conditions in no time at all.
> God Bless America, L.W(Bill) ------ III 0|||||||0
>
> Mailto:LW------3rd http://----------.com/
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441cdc75$0$21248$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Part of the problem is that you can't work on AC for money without a fancy
> > charging station and an even fancier EPA permit. This prevents the two
> > mechanics in town from doing any AC work. I don't have a commercial
> > business, but the two installations I did for myself more than paid for
> the
> > vacuum pump and set of gauges I bought. Don't ask me what happened to the
> > waste refrigerant. It must have all leaked out.
> >
> > O-rings are 90% of the problem. It is false economy to save a few dollars
> > on each system, while giving your customers years and years of repair bill
> > headache.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:4cc93$441cb94a$4831b233$26769@FUSE.NET...
> > > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >
> > > What is the difference you ask?
> > >
> > > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> complete
> > > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> > > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >
> > > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> > > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> patio
> > > set to an ocean liner...
> > >
> > > That's the difference..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> > > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
> > rear
> > > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> hose
> > > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> > > > while
> > > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> > > > system
> > > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
> > too.
> > > >
> > > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
> > and
> > > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
> > rest
> > > > are getting ready.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> > > > mechanic"
> > > >> for a leak test
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> > > > years
> > > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> fixed
> > > >> >it
> > > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
> > fine
> > > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> > > > recharge
> > > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> > > > cooling
> > > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about
> a
> > > > week
> > > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan
> on
> > > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Marcel
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
which would require the dash come out to replace if that is the issue and i have
done hundreds at one time it was under a extended warranty u might check out
that route
"L.W. (Bill) ------" wrote:
> Hi Earle,
> It's too bad some car don't advertise their assemble lines take the time
> to use flared nuts to bolt everything together to see if their sales don't
> go up enough to make it cost effective. As anyone knows the AC's retaining
> springs alone give up under dusty conditions in no time at all.
> God Bless America, L.W(Bill) ------ III 0|||||||0
>
> Mailto:LW------3rd http://----------.com/
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441cdc75$0$21248$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Part of the problem is that you can't work on AC for money without a fancy
> > charging station and an even fancier EPA permit. This prevents the two
> > mechanics in town from doing any AC work. I don't have a commercial
> > business, but the two installations I did for myself more than paid for
> the
> > vacuum pump and set of gauges I bought. Don't ask me what happened to the
> > waste refrigerant. It must have all leaked out.
> >
> > O-rings are 90% of the problem. It is false economy to save a few dollars
> > on each system, while giving your customers years and years of repair bill
> > headache.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:4cc93$441cb94a$4831b233$26769@FUSE.NET...
> > > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >
> > > What is the difference you ask?
> > >
> > > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> complete
> > > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> > > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >
> > > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> > > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> patio
> > > set to an ocean liner...
> > >
> > > That's the difference..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> > > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
> > rear
> > > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> hose
> > > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> > > > while
> > > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> > > > system
> > > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
> > too.
> > > >
> > > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
> > and
> > > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
> > rest
> > > > are getting ready.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> > > > mechanic"
> > > >> for a leak test
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> > > > years
> > > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> fixed
> > > >> >it
> > > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
> > fine
> > > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> > > > recharge
> > > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> > > > cooling
> > > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about
> a
> > > > week
> > > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan
> on
> > > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Marcel
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
03-20-2006 | 06:36 PM
#130
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Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
most times the nurses are smarter than the doctors
Earle Horton wrote:
> Are they anything like registered nurses?
>
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
>
> Earle
>
> "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> > ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the bac!!!!
> > i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> >
> > > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >
> > > What is the difference you ask?
> > >
> > > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> complete
> > > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> > > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >
> > > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> > > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> patio
> > > set to an ocean liner...
> > >
> > > That's the difference..
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> > > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
> rear
> > > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> hose
> > > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> > > > while
> > > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> > > > system
> > > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
> too.
> > > >
> > > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
> and
> > > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
> rest
> > > > are getting ready.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> > > > mechanic"
> > > >> for a leak test
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> > > > years
> > > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> fixed
> > > >> >it
> > > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
> fine
> > > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> > > > recharge
> > > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> > > > cooling
> > > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about
> a
> > > > week
> > > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan
> on
> > > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Marcel
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> >
Earle Horton wrote:
> Are they anything like registered nurses?
>
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
>
> Earle
>
> "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> > ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the bac!!!!
> > i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> >
> > > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >
> > > What is the difference you ask?
> > >
> > > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> complete
> > > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> > > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >
> > > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> > > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> patio
> > > set to an ocean liner...
> > >
> > > That's the difference..
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> > > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
> rear
> > > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> hose
> > > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> > > > while
> > > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> > > > system
> > > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
> too.
> > > >
> > > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
> and
> > > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
> rest
> > > > are getting ready.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> > > > mechanic"
> > > >> for a leak test
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> > > > years
> > > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> fixed
> > > >> >it
> > > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
> fine
> > > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> > > > recharge
> > > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> > > > cooling
> > > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about
> a
> > > > week
> > > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan
> on
> > > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Marcel
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> >