94XJ blow-by (again, I know)
04-24-2004 | 05:29 PM
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94XJ blow-by (again, I know)
I have decided I will fix this problem myself, being that I am a college
student money is a tight issue right now so I decided I will attempt to
repair this myself.
Here is an image of the engine:
94XJ SE 4.0L L-6
http://home.earthlink.net/~adonisv/engine.jpg
I have several questions, I am in no way all that engine savvy so I will be
wrong in some of my wording, and also this is an excuse for me to start
learning.
1. What are the part numbers/names of the circled items (the image link)
2. How do I remove the grommets?
3. Any recommended engine oil additives (brands?) to clean the engine?
Amount to put in (the additive)?
4. I use Mobile 1 Synth. should I change the oil to this one with the
additive or should I used a different one so I can flush the system at a
cheaper rate?
5. Anything else that I should check for?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Adonis
student money is a tight issue right now so I decided I will attempt to
repair this myself.
Here is an image of the engine:
94XJ SE 4.0L L-6
http://home.earthlink.net/~adonisv/engine.jpg
I have several questions, I am in no way all that engine savvy so I will be
wrong in some of my wording, and also this is an excuse for me to start
learning.
1. What are the part numbers/names of the circled items (the image link)
2. How do I remove the grommets?
3. Any recommended engine oil additives (brands?) to clean the engine?
Amount to put in (the additive)?
4. I use Mobile 1 Synth. should I change the oil to this one with the
additive or should I used a different one so I can flush the system at a
cheaper rate?
5. Anything else that I should check for?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Adonis
04-24-2004 | 06:05 PM
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Re: 94XJ blow-by (again, I know)
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...ltr/blowby.htm
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Adonis wrote:
>
> I have decided I will fix this problem myself, being that I am a college
> student money is a tight issue right now so I decided I will attempt to
> repair this myself.
>
> Here is an image of the engine:
> 94XJ SE 4.0L L-6
> http://home.earthlink.net/~adonisv/engine.jpg
>
> I have several questions, I am in no way all that engine savvy so I will be
> wrong in some of my wording, and also this is an excuse for me to start
> learning.
>
> 1. What are the part numbers/names of the circled items (the image link)
> 2. How do I remove the grommets?
> 3. Any recommended engine oil additives (brands?) to clean the engine?
> Amount to put in (the additive)?
> 4. I use Mobile 1 Synth. should I change the oil to this one with the
> additive or should I used a different one so I can flush the system at a
> cheaper rate?
> 5. Anything else that I should check for?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Adonis
04-24-2004 | 06:05 PM
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Re: 94XJ blow-by (again, I know)
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...ltr/blowby.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Adonis wrote:
>
> I have decided I will fix this problem myself, being that I am a college
> student money is a tight issue right now so I decided I will attempt to
> repair this myself.
>
> Here is an image of the engine:
> 94XJ SE 4.0L L-6
> http://home.earthlink.net/~adonisv/engine.jpg
>
> I have several questions, I am in no way all that engine savvy so I will be
> wrong in some of my wording, and also this is an excuse for me to start
> learning.
>
> 1. What are the part numbers/names of the circled items (the image link)
> 2. How do I remove the grommets?
> 3. Any recommended engine oil additives (brands?) to clean the engine?
> Amount to put in (the additive)?
> 4. I use Mobile 1 Synth. should I change the oil to this one with the
> additive or should I used a different one so I can flush the system at a
> cheaper rate?
> 5. Anything else that I should check for?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Adonis
04-24-2004 | 06:05 PM
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Re: 94XJ blow-by (again, I know)
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...ltr/blowby.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Adonis wrote:
>
> I have decided I will fix this problem myself, being that I am a college
> student money is a tight issue right now so I decided I will attempt to
> repair this myself.
>
> Here is an image of the engine:
> 94XJ SE 4.0L L-6
> http://home.earthlink.net/~adonisv/engine.jpg
>
> I have several questions, I am in no way all that engine savvy so I will be
> wrong in some of my wording, and also this is an excuse for me to start
> learning.
>
> 1. What are the part numbers/names of the circled items (the image link)
> 2. How do I remove the grommets?
> 3. Any recommended engine oil additives (brands?) to clean the engine?
> Amount to put in (the additive)?
> 4. I use Mobile 1 Synth. should I change the oil to this one with the
> additive or should I used a different one so I can flush the system at a
> cheaper rate?
> 5. Anything else that I should check for?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Adonis
04-24-2004 | 06:05 PM
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Re: 94XJ blow-by (again, I know)
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...ltr/blowby.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Adonis wrote:
>
> I have decided I will fix this problem myself, being that I am a college
> student money is a tight issue right now so I decided I will attempt to
> repair this myself.
>
> Here is an image of the engine:
> 94XJ SE 4.0L L-6
> http://home.earthlink.net/~adonisv/engine.jpg
>
> I have several questions, I am in no way all that engine savvy so I will be
> wrong in some of my wording, and also this is an excuse for me to start
> learning.
>
> 1. What are the part numbers/names of the circled items (the image link)
> 2. How do I remove the grommets?
> 3. Any recommended engine oil additives (brands?) to clean the engine?
> Amount to put in (the additive)?
> 4. I use Mobile 1 Synth. should I change the oil to this one with the
> additive or should I used a different one so I can flush the system at a
> cheaper rate?
> 5. Anything else that I should check for?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Adonis
04-24-2004 | 06:53 PM
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Re: 94XJ blow-by (again, I know)
Adonis wrote:
>
> I have decided I will fix this problem myself, being that I am a college
> student money is a tight issue right now so I decided I will attempt to
> repair this myself.
>
> Here is an image of the engine:
> 94XJ SE 4.0L L-6
> http://home.earthlink.net/~adonisv/engine.jpg
>
> I have several questions, I am in no way all that engine savvy so I will be
> wrong in some of my wording, and also this is an excuse for me to start
> learning.
>
> 1. What are the part numbers/names of the circled items (the image link)
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...ltr/blowby.htm
> 2. How do I remove the grommets?
The front one turns I 'think', same for the rear one. Unlikely the
front one is plugged, but possible, if so you have some serious cleaning
issues.
> 3. Any recommended engine oil additives (brands?) to clean the engine?
> Amount to put in (the additive)?
Nope. Unless it is badly sludged up?
> 4. I use Mobile 1 Synth. should I change the oil to this one with the
> additive or should I used a different one so I can flush the system at a
> cheaper rate?
Why? Is the system badly sludged up?
Mobile is probably the best at cleaning it depending on how long that
back CCV grommet has been broken.
If it is in bad shape you will see the sludge pouring out with the oil
when changing it. If you look inside the oil filler cap how bad does it
look?
If it is in really bad shape you don't want to clean it out too fast,
too much junk gets circulated.
> 5. Anything else that I should check for?
How much oil is blowing into the air filter?
I also think I noticed although it's blurry, the main ground strap from
the rear of your engine head to the firewall looking all frayed like it
was about to fall apart. That is the main body ground and needs to be
solid for good or any usually, running. They fail fast if frayed.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> I have decided I will fix this problem myself, being that I am a college
> student money is a tight issue right now so I decided I will attempt to
> repair this myself.
>
> Here is an image of the engine:
> 94XJ SE 4.0L L-6
> http://home.earthlink.net/~adonisv/engine.jpg
>
> I have several questions, I am in no way all that engine savvy so I will be
> wrong in some of my wording, and also this is an excuse for me to start
> learning.
>
> 1. What are the part numbers/names of the circled items (the image link)
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...ltr/blowby.htm
> 2. How do I remove the grommets?
The front one turns I 'think', same for the rear one. Unlikely the
front one is plugged, but possible, if so you have some serious cleaning
issues.
> 3. Any recommended engine oil additives (brands?) to clean the engine?
> Amount to put in (the additive)?
Nope. Unless it is badly sludged up?
> 4. I use Mobile 1 Synth. should I change the oil to this one with the
> additive or should I used a different one so I can flush the system at a
> cheaper rate?
Why? Is the system badly sludged up?
Mobile is probably the best at cleaning it depending on how long that
back CCV grommet has been broken.
If it is in bad shape you will see the sludge pouring out with the oil
when changing it. If you look inside the oil filler cap how bad does it
look?
If it is in really bad shape you don't want to clean it out too fast,
too much junk gets circulated.
> 5. Anything else that I should check for?
How much oil is blowing into the air filter?
I also think I noticed although it's blurry, the main ground strap from
the rear of your engine head to the firewall looking all frayed like it
was about to fall apart. That is the main body ground and needs to be
solid for good or any usually, running. They fail fast if frayed.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
04-24-2004 | 06:53 PM
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Re: 94XJ blow-by (again, I know)
Adonis wrote:
>
> I have decided I will fix this problem myself, being that I am a college
> student money is a tight issue right now so I decided I will attempt to
> repair this myself.
>
> Here is an image of the engine:
> 94XJ SE 4.0L L-6
> http://home.earthlink.net/~adonisv/engine.jpg
>
> I have several questions, I am in no way all that engine savvy so I will be
> wrong in some of my wording, and also this is an excuse for me to start
> learning.
>
> 1. What are the part numbers/names of the circled items (the image link)
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...ltr/blowby.htm
> 2. How do I remove the grommets?
The front one turns I 'think', same for the rear one. Unlikely the
front one is plugged, but possible, if so you have some serious cleaning
issues.
> 3. Any recommended engine oil additives (brands?) to clean the engine?
> Amount to put in (the additive)?
Nope. Unless it is badly sludged up?
> 4. I use Mobile 1 Synth. should I change the oil to this one with the
> additive or should I used a different one so I can flush the system at a
> cheaper rate?
Why? Is the system badly sludged up?
Mobile is probably the best at cleaning it depending on how long that
back CCV grommet has been broken.
If it is in bad shape you will see the sludge pouring out with the oil
when changing it. If you look inside the oil filler cap how bad does it
look?
If it is in really bad shape you don't want to clean it out too fast,
too much junk gets circulated.
> 5. Anything else that I should check for?
How much oil is blowing into the air filter?
I also think I noticed although it's blurry, the main ground strap from
the rear of your engine head to the firewall looking all frayed like it
was about to fall apart. That is the main body ground and needs to be
solid for good or any usually, running. They fail fast if frayed.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> I have decided I will fix this problem myself, being that I am a college
> student money is a tight issue right now so I decided I will attempt to
> repair this myself.
>
> Here is an image of the engine:
> 94XJ SE 4.0L L-6
> http://home.earthlink.net/~adonisv/engine.jpg
>
> I have several questions, I am in no way all that engine savvy so I will be
> wrong in some of my wording, and also this is an excuse for me to start
> learning.
>
> 1. What are the part numbers/names of the circled items (the image link)
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...ltr/blowby.htm
> 2. How do I remove the grommets?
The front one turns I 'think', same for the rear one. Unlikely the
front one is plugged, but possible, if so you have some serious cleaning
issues.
> 3. Any recommended engine oil additives (brands?) to clean the engine?
> Amount to put in (the additive)?
Nope. Unless it is badly sludged up?
> 4. I use Mobile 1 Synth. should I change the oil to this one with the
> additive or should I used a different one so I can flush the system at a
> cheaper rate?
Why? Is the system badly sludged up?
Mobile is probably the best at cleaning it depending on how long that
back CCV grommet has been broken.
If it is in bad shape you will see the sludge pouring out with the oil
when changing it. If you look inside the oil filler cap how bad does it
look?
If it is in really bad shape you don't want to clean it out too fast,
too much junk gets circulated.
> 5. Anything else that I should check for?
How much oil is blowing into the air filter?
I also think I noticed although it's blurry, the main ground strap from
the rear of your engine head to the firewall looking all frayed like it
was about to fall apart. That is the main body ground and needs to be
solid for good or any usually, running. They fail fast if frayed.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
04-24-2004 | 06:53 PM
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Re: 94XJ blow-by (again, I know)
Adonis wrote:
>
> I have decided I will fix this problem myself, being that I am a college
> student money is a tight issue right now so I decided I will attempt to
> repair this myself.
>
> Here is an image of the engine:
> 94XJ SE 4.0L L-6
> http://home.earthlink.net/~adonisv/engine.jpg
>
> I have several questions, I am in no way all that engine savvy so I will be
> wrong in some of my wording, and also this is an excuse for me to start
> learning.
>
> 1. What are the part numbers/names of the circled items (the image link)
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...ltr/blowby.htm
> 2. How do I remove the grommets?
The front one turns I 'think', same for the rear one. Unlikely the
front one is plugged, but possible, if so you have some serious cleaning
issues.
> 3. Any recommended engine oil additives (brands?) to clean the engine?
> Amount to put in (the additive)?
Nope. Unless it is badly sludged up?
> 4. I use Mobile 1 Synth. should I change the oil to this one with the
> additive or should I used a different one so I can flush the system at a
> cheaper rate?
Why? Is the system badly sludged up?
Mobile is probably the best at cleaning it depending on how long that
back CCV grommet has been broken.
If it is in bad shape you will see the sludge pouring out with the oil
when changing it. If you look inside the oil filler cap how bad does it
look?
If it is in really bad shape you don't want to clean it out too fast,
too much junk gets circulated.
> 5. Anything else that I should check for?
How much oil is blowing into the air filter?
I also think I noticed although it's blurry, the main ground strap from
the rear of your engine head to the firewall looking all frayed like it
was about to fall apart. That is the main body ground and needs to be
solid for good or any usually, running. They fail fast if frayed.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> I have decided I will fix this problem myself, being that I am a college
> student money is a tight issue right now so I decided I will attempt to
> repair this myself.
>
> Here is an image of the engine:
> 94XJ SE 4.0L L-6
> http://home.earthlink.net/~adonisv/engine.jpg
>
> I have several questions, I am in no way all that engine savvy so I will be
> wrong in some of my wording, and also this is an excuse for me to start
> learning.
>
> 1. What are the part numbers/names of the circled items (the image link)
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...ltr/blowby.htm
> 2. How do I remove the grommets?
The front one turns I 'think', same for the rear one. Unlikely the
front one is plugged, but possible, if so you have some serious cleaning
issues.
> 3. Any recommended engine oil additives (brands?) to clean the engine?
> Amount to put in (the additive)?
Nope. Unless it is badly sludged up?
> 4. I use Mobile 1 Synth. should I change the oil to this one with the
> additive or should I used a different one so I can flush the system at a
> cheaper rate?
Why? Is the system badly sludged up?
Mobile is probably the best at cleaning it depending on how long that
back CCV grommet has been broken.
If it is in bad shape you will see the sludge pouring out with the oil
when changing it. If you look inside the oil filler cap how bad does it
look?
If it is in really bad shape you don't want to clean it out too fast,
too much junk gets circulated.
> 5. Anything else that I should check for?
How much oil is blowing into the air filter?
I also think I noticed although it's blurry, the main ground strap from
the rear of your engine head to the firewall looking all frayed like it
was about to fall apart. That is the main body ground and needs to be
solid for good or any usually, running. They fail fast if frayed.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
04-24-2004 | 06:53 PM
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Re: 94XJ blow-by (again, I know)
Adonis wrote:
>
> I have decided I will fix this problem myself, being that I am a college
> student money is a tight issue right now so I decided I will attempt to
> repair this myself.
>
> Here is an image of the engine:
> 94XJ SE 4.0L L-6
> http://home.earthlink.net/~adonisv/engine.jpg
>
> I have several questions, I am in no way all that engine savvy so I will be
> wrong in some of my wording, and also this is an excuse for me to start
> learning.
>
> 1. What are the part numbers/names of the circled items (the image link)
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...ltr/blowby.htm
> 2. How do I remove the grommets?
The front one turns I 'think', same for the rear one. Unlikely the
front one is plugged, but possible, if so you have some serious cleaning
issues.
> 3. Any recommended engine oil additives (brands?) to clean the engine?
> Amount to put in (the additive)?
Nope. Unless it is badly sludged up?
> 4. I use Mobile 1 Synth. should I change the oil to this one with the
> additive or should I used a different one so I can flush the system at a
> cheaper rate?
Why? Is the system badly sludged up?
Mobile is probably the best at cleaning it depending on how long that
back CCV grommet has been broken.
If it is in bad shape you will see the sludge pouring out with the oil
when changing it. If you look inside the oil filler cap how bad does it
look?
If it is in really bad shape you don't want to clean it out too fast,
too much junk gets circulated.
> 5. Anything else that I should check for?
How much oil is blowing into the air filter?
I also think I noticed although it's blurry, the main ground strap from
the rear of your engine head to the firewall looking all frayed like it
was about to fall apart. That is the main body ground and needs to be
solid for good or any usually, running. They fail fast if frayed.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> I have decided I will fix this problem myself, being that I am a college
> student money is a tight issue right now so I decided I will attempt to
> repair this myself.
>
> Here is an image of the engine:
> 94XJ SE 4.0L L-6
> http://home.earthlink.net/~adonisv/engine.jpg
>
> I have several questions, I am in no way all that engine savvy so I will be
> wrong in some of my wording, and also this is an excuse for me to start
> learning.
>
> 1. What are the part numbers/names of the circled items (the image link)
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...ltr/blowby.htm
> 2. How do I remove the grommets?
The front one turns I 'think', same for the rear one. Unlikely the
front one is plugged, but possible, if so you have some serious cleaning
issues.
> 3. Any recommended engine oil additives (brands?) to clean the engine?
> Amount to put in (the additive)?
Nope. Unless it is badly sludged up?
> 4. I use Mobile 1 Synth. should I change the oil to this one with the
> additive or should I used a different one so I can flush the system at a
> cheaper rate?
Why? Is the system badly sludged up?
Mobile is probably the best at cleaning it depending on how long that
back CCV grommet has been broken.
If it is in bad shape you will see the sludge pouring out with the oil
when changing it. If you look inside the oil filler cap how bad does it
look?
If it is in really bad shape you don't want to clean it out too fast,
too much junk gets circulated.
> 5. Anything else that I should check for?
How much oil is blowing into the air filter?
I also think I noticed although it's blurry, the main ground strap from
the rear of your engine head to the firewall looking all frayed like it
was about to fall apart. That is the main body ground and needs to be
solid for good or any usually, running. They fail fast if frayed.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
04-25-2004 | 02:21 PM
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Re: 94XJ blow-by (again, I know)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Adonis wrote:
> >
> > I have decided I will fix this problem myself, being that I am a college
> > student money is a tight issue right now so I decided I will attempt to
> > repair this myself.
> >
> > Here is an image of the engine:
> > 94XJ SE 4.0L L-6
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~adonisv/engine.jpg
> >
> > I have several questions, I am in no way all that engine savvy so I will
be
> > wrong in some of my wording, and also this is an excuse for me to start
> > learning.
> >
> > 1. What are the part numbers/names of the circled items (the image link)
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...ltr/blowby.htm
>
> > 2. How do I remove the grommets?
>
> The front one turns I 'think', same for the rear one. Unlikely the
> front one is plugged, but possible, if so you have some serious cleaning
> issues.
>
> > 3. Any recommended engine oil additives (brands?) to clean the engine?
> > Amount to put in (the additive)?
>
> Nope. Unless it is badly sludged up?
>
> > 4. I use Mobile 1 Synth. should I change the oil to this one with the
> > additive or should I used a different one so I can flush the system at a
> > cheaper rate?
>
> Why? Is the system badly sludged up?
>
> Mobile is probably the best at cleaning it depending on how long that
> back CCV grommet has been broken.
>
> If it is in bad shape you will see the sludge pouring out with the oil
> when changing it. If you look inside the oil filler cap how bad does it
> look?
When I stick my finger in on all sides I pick up decenlty large amount of
sludge.
>
> If it is in really bad shape you don't want to clean it out too fast,
> too much junk gets circulated.
>
> > 5. Anything else that I should check for?
>
> How much oil is blowing into the air filter?
Not a whole bunch, but a fair amount
>
> I also think I noticed although it's blurry, the main ground strap from
> the rear of your engine head to the firewall looking all frayed like it
> was about to fall apart. That is the main body ground and needs to be
> solid for good or any usually, running. They fail fast if frayed.
>
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
news:408AE1CB.A8192246@sympatico.ca...
> Adonis wrote:
> >
> > I have decided I will fix this problem myself, being that I am a college
> > student money is a tight issue right now so I decided I will attempt to
> > repair this myself.
> >
> > Here is an image of the engine:
> > 94XJ SE 4.0L L-6
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~adonisv/engine.jpg
> >
> > I have several questions, I am in no way all that engine savvy so I will
be
> > wrong in some of my wording, and also this is an excuse for me to start
> > learning.
> >
> > 1. What are the part numbers/names of the circled items (the image link)
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...ltr/blowby.htm
>
> > 2. How do I remove the grommets?
>
> The front one turns I 'think', same for the rear one. Unlikely the
> front one is plugged, but possible, if so you have some serious cleaning
> issues.
>
> > 3. Any recommended engine oil additives (brands?) to clean the engine?
> > Amount to put in (the additive)?
>
> Nope. Unless it is badly sludged up?
>
> > 4. I use Mobile 1 Synth. should I change the oil to this one with the
> > additive or should I used a different one so I can flush the system at a
> > cheaper rate?
>
> Why? Is the system badly sludged up?
>
> Mobile is probably the best at cleaning it depending on how long that
> back CCV grommet has been broken.
>
> If it is in bad shape you will see the sludge pouring out with the oil
> when changing it. If you look inside the oil filler cap how bad does it
> look?
When I stick my finger in on all sides I pick up decenlty large amount of
sludge.
>
> If it is in really bad shape you don't want to clean it out too fast,
> too much junk gets circulated.
>
> > 5. Anything else that I should check for?
>
> How much oil is blowing into the air filter?
Not a whole bunch, but a fair amount
>
> I also think I noticed although it's blurry, the main ground strap from
> the rear of your engine head to the firewall looking all frayed like it
> was about to fall apart. That is the main body ground and needs to be
> solid for good or any usually, running. They fail fast if frayed.
>
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's