93yj failing
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93yj failing
Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a little
but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the whole
tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header and
pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem but
the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from the
header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
Nick
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but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the whole
tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header and
pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem but
the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from the
header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
Nick
--
Nick
http://members.***.net/nnote/
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Re: 93yj failing
OHya forgot. It's stumbling badly on idle. Missfiring. Is there anyway to
tell which one is missfiring? It's the 4cyl.
Nick
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:gg9Gb.22046$J77.7584@fed1read07...
> Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a little
> but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the
whole
> tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header and
> pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem
but
> the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
> causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
> power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
> solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from the
> header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
> Nick
>
>
> --
> Nick
> http://members.***.net/nnote/
>
>
tell which one is missfiring? It's the 4cyl.
Nick
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:gg9Gb.22046$J77.7584@fed1read07...
> Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a little
> but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the
whole
> tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header and
> pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem
but
> the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
> causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
> power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
> solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from the
> header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
> Nick
>
>
> --
> Nick
> http://members.***.net/nnote/
>
>
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Re: 93yj failing
OHya forgot. It's stumbling badly on idle. Missfiring. Is there anyway to
tell which one is missfiring? It's the 4cyl.
Nick
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:gg9Gb.22046$J77.7584@fed1read07...
> Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a little
> but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the
whole
> tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header and
> pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem
but
> the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
> causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
> power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
> solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from the
> header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
> Nick
>
>
> --
> Nick
> http://members.***.net/nnote/
>
>
tell which one is missfiring? It's the 4cyl.
Nick
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:gg9Gb.22046$J77.7584@fed1read07...
> Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a little
> but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the
whole
> tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header and
> pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem
but
> the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
> causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
> power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
> solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from the
> header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
> Nick
>
>
> --
> Nick
> http://members.***.net/nnote/
>
>
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Re: 93yj failing
OHya forgot. It's stumbling badly on idle. Missfiring. Is there anyway to
tell which one is missfiring? It's the 4cyl.
Nick
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:gg9Gb.22046$J77.7584@fed1read07...
> Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a little
> but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the
whole
> tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header and
> pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem
but
> the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
> causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
> power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
> solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from the
> header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
> Nick
>
>
> --
> Nick
> http://members.***.net/nnote/
>
>
tell which one is missfiring? It's the 4cyl.
Nick
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:gg9Gb.22046$J77.7584@fed1read07...
> Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a little
> but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the
whole
> tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header and
> pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem
but
> the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
> causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
> power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
> solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from the
> header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
> Nick
>
>
> --
> Nick
> http://members.***.net/nnote/
>
>
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Re: 93yj failing
I just went out and was playing with the plug wires... Don't ever short
yourself between the wire and the cap. *^&**&%%&&^*%(^*(%)&*%)%^* OUCH!
Nick
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:2t9Gb.22050$J77.17468@fed1read07...
> OHya forgot. It's stumbling badly on idle. Missfiring. Is there anyway
to
> tell which one is missfiring? It's the 4cyl.
> Nick
>
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:gg9Gb.22046$J77.7584@fed1read07...
> > Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a
little
> > but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the
> whole
> > tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header
and
> > pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem
> but
> > the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
> > causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
> > power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
> > solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from
the
> > header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nick
> > http://members.***.net/nnote/
> >
> >
>
>
yourself between the wire and the cap. *^&**&%%&&^*%(^*(%)&*%)%^* OUCH!
Nick
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:2t9Gb.22050$J77.17468@fed1read07...
> OHya forgot. It's stumbling badly on idle. Missfiring. Is there anyway
to
> tell which one is missfiring? It's the 4cyl.
> Nick
>
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:gg9Gb.22046$J77.7584@fed1read07...
> > Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a
little
> > but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the
> whole
> > tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header
and
> > pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem
> but
> > the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
> > causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
> > power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
> > solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from
the
> > header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nick
> > http://members.***.net/nnote/
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: 93yj failing
I just went out and was playing with the plug wires... Don't ever short
yourself between the wire and the cap. *^&**&%%&&^*%(^*(%)&*%)%^* OUCH!
Nick
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:2t9Gb.22050$J77.17468@fed1read07...
> OHya forgot. It's stumbling badly on idle. Missfiring. Is there anyway
to
> tell which one is missfiring? It's the 4cyl.
> Nick
>
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:gg9Gb.22046$J77.7584@fed1read07...
> > Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a
little
> > but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the
> whole
> > tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header
and
> > pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem
> but
> > the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
> > causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
> > power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
> > solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from
the
> > header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nick
> > http://members.***.net/nnote/
> >
> >
>
>
yourself between the wire and the cap. *^&**&%%&&^*%(^*(%)&*%)%^* OUCH!
Nick
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:2t9Gb.22050$J77.17468@fed1read07...
> OHya forgot. It's stumbling badly on idle. Missfiring. Is there anyway
to
> tell which one is missfiring? It's the 4cyl.
> Nick
>
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:gg9Gb.22046$J77.7584@fed1read07...
> > Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a
little
> > but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the
> whole
> > tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header
and
> > pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem
> but
> > the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
> > causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
> > power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
> > solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from
the
> > header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nick
> > http://members.***.net/nnote/
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: 93yj failing
I just went out and was playing with the plug wires... Don't ever short
yourself between the wire and the cap. *^&**&%%&&^*%(^*(%)&*%)%^* OUCH!
Nick
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:2t9Gb.22050$J77.17468@fed1read07...
> OHya forgot. It's stumbling badly on idle. Missfiring. Is there anyway
to
> tell which one is missfiring? It's the 4cyl.
> Nick
>
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:gg9Gb.22046$J77.7584@fed1read07...
> > Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a
little
> > but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the
> whole
> > tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header
and
> > pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem
> but
> > the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
> > causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
> > power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
> > solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from
the
> > header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nick
> > http://members.***.net/nnote/
> >
> >
>
>
yourself between the wire and the cap. *^&**&%%&&^*%(^*(%)&*%)%^* OUCH!
Nick
"Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:2t9Gb.22050$J77.17468@fed1read07...
> OHya forgot. It's stumbling badly on idle. Missfiring. Is there anyway
to
> tell which one is missfiring? It's the 4cyl.
> Nick
>
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:gg9Gb.22046$J77.7584@fed1read07...
> > Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a
little
> > but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the
> whole
> > tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header
and
> > pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem
> but
> > the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
> > causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
> > power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
> > solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from
the
> > header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nick
> > http://members.***.net/nnote/
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: 93yj failing
Hi Nick,
Your mechanic will tell which is misfiring by a balance test using
their diagnostic computer, which short each plug individually, measuring
the change in revolutions per minute. You may do the same by pulling an
ignition wire, until you fine the one that doesn't change the RPM.
I'd fix the exhaust, letting oxygen in is bound to screw up your
Oxygen Sensor, probably enriching the mixer to compensate, further
screwing up your tests. And replace your catalytic convert which will
burn the Hydrocarbons and change Carbon Monoxide into harmless Carbon
Dioxide.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Nick N wrote:
>
> OHya forgot. It's stumbling badly on idle. Missfiring. Is there anyway to
> tell which one is missfiring? It's the 4cyl.
> Nick
>
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:gg9Gb.22046$J77.7584@fed1read07...
> > Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a little
> > but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the
> whole
> > tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header and
> > pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem
> but
> > the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
> > causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
> > power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
> > solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from the
> > header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nick
> > http://members.***.net/nnote/
> >
> >
Your mechanic will tell which is misfiring by a balance test using
their diagnostic computer, which short each plug individually, measuring
the change in revolutions per minute. You may do the same by pulling an
ignition wire, until you fine the one that doesn't change the RPM.
I'd fix the exhaust, letting oxygen in is bound to screw up your
Oxygen Sensor, probably enriching the mixer to compensate, further
screwing up your tests. And replace your catalytic convert which will
burn the Hydrocarbons and change Carbon Monoxide into harmless Carbon
Dioxide.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Nick N wrote:
>
> OHya forgot. It's stumbling badly on idle. Missfiring. Is there anyway to
> tell which one is missfiring? It's the 4cyl.
> Nick
>
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:gg9Gb.22046$J77.7584@fed1read07...
> > Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a little
> > but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the
> whole
> > tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header and
> > pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem
> but
> > the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
> > causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
> > power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
> > solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from the
> > header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nick
> > http://members.***.net/nnote/
> >
> >
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Re: 93yj failing
Hi Nick,
Your mechanic will tell which is misfiring by a balance test using
their diagnostic computer, which short each plug individually, measuring
the change in revolutions per minute. You may do the same by pulling an
ignition wire, until you fine the one that doesn't change the RPM.
I'd fix the exhaust, letting oxygen in is bound to screw up your
Oxygen Sensor, probably enriching the mixer to compensate, further
screwing up your tests. And replace your catalytic convert which will
burn the Hydrocarbons and change Carbon Monoxide into harmless Carbon
Dioxide.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Nick N wrote:
>
> OHya forgot. It's stumbling badly on idle. Missfiring. Is there anyway to
> tell which one is missfiring? It's the 4cyl.
> Nick
>
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:gg9Gb.22046$J77.7584@fed1read07...
> > Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a little
> > but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the
> whole
> > tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header and
> > pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem
> but
> > the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
> > causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
> > power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
> > solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from the
> > header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nick
> > http://members.***.net/nnote/
> >
> >
Your mechanic will tell which is misfiring by a balance test using
their diagnostic computer, which short each plug individually, measuring
the change in revolutions per minute. You may do the same by pulling an
ignition wire, until you fine the one that doesn't change the RPM.
I'd fix the exhaust, letting oxygen in is bound to screw up your
Oxygen Sensor, probably enriching the mixer to compensate, further
screwing up your tests. And replace your catalytic convert which will
burn the Hydrocarbons and change Carbon Monoxide into harmless Carbon
Dioxide.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Nick N wrote:
>
> OHya forgot. It's stumbling badly on idle. Missfiring. Is there anyway to
> tell which one is missfiring? It's the 4cyl.
> Nick
>
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:gg9Gb.22046$J77.7584@fed1read07...
> > Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a little
> > but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the
> whole
> > tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header and
> > pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem
> but
> > the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
> > causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
> > power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
> > solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from the
> > header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nick
> > http://members.***.net/nnote/
> >
> >
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Re: 93yj failing
Hi Nick,
Your mechanic will tell which is misfiring by a balance test using
their diagnostic computer, which short each plug individually, measuring
the change in revolutions per minute. You may do the same by pulling an
ignition wire, until you fine the one that doesn't change the RPM.
I'd fix the exhaust, letting oxygen in is bound to screw up your
Oxygen Sensor, probably enriching the mixer to compensate, further
screwing up your tests. And replace your catalytic convert which will
burn the Hydrocarbons and change Carbon Monoxide into harmless Carbon
Dioxide.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Nick N wrote:
>
> OHya forgot. It's stumbling badly on idle. Missfiring. Is there anyway to
> tell which one is missfiring? It's the 4cyl.
> Nick
>
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:gg9Gb.22046$J77.7584@fed1read07...
> > Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a little
> > but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the
> whole
> > tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header and
> > pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem
> but
> > the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
> > causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
> > power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
> > solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from the
> > header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nick
> > http://members.***.net/nnote/
> >
> >
Your mechanic will tell which is misfiring by a balance test using
their diagnostic computer, which short each plug individually, measuring
the change in revolutions per minute. You may do the same by pulling an
ignition wire, until you fine the one that doesn't change the RPM.
I'd fix the exhaust, letting oxygen in is bound to screw up your
Oxygen Sensor, probably enriching the mixer to compensate, further
screwing up your tests. And replace your catalytic convert which will
burn the Hydrocarbons and change Carbon Monoxide into harmless Carbon
Dioxide.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Nick N wrote:
>
> OHya forgot. It's stumbling badly on idle. Missfiring. Is there anyway to
> tell which one is missfiring? It's the 4cyl.
> Nick
>
> "Nick N" <nnote@despammed.com> wrote in message
> news:gg9Gb.22046$J77.7584@fed1read07...
> > Ok my 93yj failed emissions miserably today. Hydrocarbons by just a little
> > but CO by well, a HUGE amount. Nox was barely noticable... I did the
> whole
> > tuneup about 4 weeks ago but also had a gap develop between the header and
> > pipe (before the o2 sensor). The tuneup got rid of my backfire problem
> but
> > the exhuast problem is making my Jeep sound horrible. I think it's also
> > causing my Jeep to run real rich (stinks) and it has a noticible lack of
> > power. Any screwed up logic here? Anyone have anymore suggestions on
> > solving this? I'm thinking about just having my exhaust rebuilt from the
> > header back, but I don't know if that will solve my emissions prob.
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > --
> > Nick
> > http://members.***.net/nnote/
> >
> >