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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 07-06-2005 01:03 AM

Re: 91 XJ: front driveshaft double-cardan lubrication
 
Yes, I was a mechanic in the Navy until Pearl Harbor, took me
twenty two days to die.
This life, I rebuilt my first carburetor at the age four, drove
twenty five dollars cars on twenty five cents tires, which of course
needed a lot of work to get to school. Caught the hot rod bug in high
school: http://www.----------.com/dragster.jpg Did twenty years as an
owner/operator Chevron Dealer: http://www.----------.com/chevron.jpg and
burned out, and thought Sony and Will's characters had a good job seeing
the U.S.of A. So I became an independent trucker driving a million miles
with two logs. Doing normal maintenance took all my spare time, giving
me a bunch more mechanic experience, but not much fun at ten cents an
hour: http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg
I was surveyor while in the ARMY '64 to '66, and tested all the
artillery divisions and the Honest John missile in Germany:
http://www.----------.com/proudFcivilian.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Doug wrote:
>
> The thing is Bill, with the double-cardan joint installed, I can't even see
> that zerk fitting (for the double-cardan joint ball). The skid plate that
> holds up the xfer case is right there in the way, but even then the zerk
> fitting is covered by the knuckle of the spider.
>
> Does the double-cardan joint ball and spring assembly put pressure on the
> spider to prevent wobbling?
>
> Thanks for all your responses and advice too Bill. I really appreciate it.
> Were you a mechanic in a previous life (maybe after you were in the army)?
> What unit were you in when you were in the army?


Steve 07-06-2005 10:55 AM

Re: 91 XJ: front driveshaft double-cardan lubrication
 
I'm not as talented as Bill. I find I have to detach the front shaft
from the transfer case to get the grease needle to the socket ball.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Many time I have to rotate the zerk pointed and shot it blind, as
> the angle is too tight pointed down.
>
> Doug wrote:
>
>>Bill, the thing is, I've never even been able to see that grease fitting
>>(for the ball), no matter how much I rotate the front driveshaft. Does the
>>ball and spring put pressure on the spider? Is this how it stops the
>>double-cardan joint from wobbling?


Steve 07-06-2005 10:55 AM

Re: 91 XJ: front driveshaft double-cardan lubrication
 
I'm not as talented as Bill. I find I have to detach the front shaft
from the transfer case to get the grease needle to the socket ball.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Many time I have to rotate the zerk pointed and shot it blind, as
> the angle is too tight pointed down.
>
> Doug wrote:
>
>>Bill, the thing is, I've never even been able to see that grease fitting
>>(for the ball), no matter how much I rotate the front driveshaft. Does the
>>ball and spring put pressure on the spider? Is this how it stops the
>>double-cardan joint from wobbling?


Steve 07-06-2005 10:55 AM

Re: 91 XJ: front driveshaft double-cardan lubrication
 
I'm not as talented as Bill. I find I have to detach the front shaft
from the transfer case to get the grease needle to the socket ball.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Many time I have to rotate the zerk pointed and shot it blind, as
> the angle is too tight pointed down.
>
> Doug wrote:
>
>>Bill, the thing is, I've never even been able to see that grease fitting
>>(for the ball), no matter how much I rotate the front driveshaft. Does the
>>ball and spring put pressure on the spider? Is this how it stops the
>>double-cardan joint from wobbling?


Steve 07-06-2005 10:55 AM

Re: 91 XJ: front driveshaft double-cardan lubrication
 
I'm not as talented as Bill. I find I have to detach the front shaft
from the transfer case to get the grease needle to the socket ball.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Many time I have to rotate the zerk pointed and shot it blind, as
> the angle is too tight pointed down.
>
> Doug wrote:
>
>>Bill, the thing is, I've never even been able to see that grease fitting
>>(for the ball), no matter how much I rotate the front driveshaft. Does the
>>ball and spring put pressure on the spider? Is this how it stops the
>>double-cardan joint from wobbling?


Steve 07-06-2005 10:59 AM

Re: 91 XJ: front driveshaft double-cardan lubrication
 
More precisely, in the differential, the 'spider' is comprised of the
two 'spider gears' and the 'spider cross shaft' that pins them to the
case. The other two gears, the ones on each side connected to the ends
of the axles, are called 'side gears' or 'end gears'. The 'spider' gets
its name from the way it can crawl around on a side gear just like an
arachnid doing a 180 degree turn.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I use the term universal joint, maybe star to further describe a
> part of it, but spider is what we call the differential side gears
> because of the angle their teeth are cut:
> http://www.----------.com/dana35c/dana35cclip.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


Steve 07-06-2005 10:59 AM

Re: 91 XJ: front driveshaft double-cardan lubrication
 
More precisely, in the differential, the 'spider' is comprised of the
two 'spider gears' and the 'spider cross shaft' that pins them to the
case. The other two gears, the ones on each side connected to the ends
of the axles, are called 'side gears' or 'end gears'. The 'spider' gets
its name from the way it can crawl around on a side gear just like an
arachnid doing a 180 degree turn.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I use the term universal joint, maybe star to further describe a
> part of it, but spider is what we call the differential side gears
> because of the angle their teeth are cut:
> http://www.----------.com/dana35c/dana35cclip.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


Steve 07-06-2005 10:59 AM

Re: 91 XJ: front driveshaft double-cardan lubrication
 
More precisely, in the differential, the 'spider' is comprised of the
two 'spider gears' and the 'spider cross shaft' that pins them to the
case. The other two gears, the ones on each side connected to the ends
of the axles, are called 'side gears' or 'end gears'. The 'spider' gets
its name from the way it can crawl around on a side gear just like an
arachnid doing a 180 degree turn.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I use the term universal joint, maybe star to further describe a
> part of it, but spider is what we call the differential side gears
> because of the angle their teeth are cut:
> http://www.----------.com/dana35c/dana35cclip.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


Steve 07-06-2005 10:59 AM

Re: 91 XJ: front driveshaft double-cardan lubrication
 
More precisely, in the differential, the 'spider' is comprised of the
two 'spider gears' and the 'spider cross shaft' that pins them to the
case. The other two gears, the ones on each side connected to the ends
of the axles, are called 'side gears' or 'end gears'. The 'spider' gets
its name from the way it can crawl around on a side gear just like an
arachnid doing a 180 degree turn.

Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I use the term universal joint, maybe star to further describe a
> part of it, but spider is what we call the differential side gears
> because of the angle their teeth are cut:
> http://www.----------.com/dana35c/dana35cclip.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


Doug 07-06-2005 03:52 PM

Re: 91 XJ: front driveshaft double-cardan lubrication
 
Bill, I noticed your Chevron station was near (or on) Foothill Blvd. Is that
the Foothill Blvd. that runs thru Sylmar, Sun Valley and near Mt. Baldy? Why
did you give up on your Chevron station? It looks like your station was a
full-serve. I always thought there was a lot of money to be made in
automobile service?

Was that pic of the Pomona dragstrip? I think that's the only dragstrip left
in Southern California now.

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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:42CB663C.AB30E536@cox.net...
> Yes, I was a mechanic in the Navy until Pearl Harbor, took me
> twenty two days to die.
> This life, I rebuilt my first carburetor at the age four, drove
> twenty five dollars cars on twenty five cents tires, which of course
> needed a lot of work to get to school. Caught the hot rod bug in high
> school: http://www.----------.com/dragster.jpg Did twenty years as an
> owner/operator Chevron Dealer: http://www.----------.com/chevron.jpg and
> burned out, and thought Sony and Will's characters had a good job seeing
> the U.S.of A. So I became an independent trucker driving a million miles
> with two logs. Doing normal maintenance took all my spare time, giving
> me a bunch more mechanic experience, but not much fun at ten cents an
> hour: http://www.----------.com/kenworth.jpg
> I was surveyor while in the ARMY '64 to '66, and tested all the
> artillery divisions and the Honest John missile in Germany:
> http://www.----------.com/proudFcivilian.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Doug wrote:
>>
>> The thing is Bill, with the double-cardan joint installed, I can't even
>> see
>> that zerk fitting (for the double-cardan joint ball). The skid plate that
>> holds up the xfer case is right there in the way, but even then the zerk
>> fitting is covered by the knuckle of the spider.
>>
>> Does the double-cardan joint ball and spring assembly put pressure on the
>> spider to prevent wobbling?
>>
>> Thanks for all your responses and advice too Bill. I really appreciate
>> it.
>> Were you a mechanic in a previous life (maybe after you were in the
>> army)?
>> What unit were you in when you were in the army?





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