134a Refrigerant
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Howard Dean, head of the Democratic party, doesn't seem so strange
> anymore.
lol aint it the truth!
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> Howard Dean, head of the Democratic party, doesn't seem so strange
> anymore.
lol aint it the truth!
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11apkb8664dqgb3@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Mf1re.80$kX4.58@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
> > What an incredible lack of scientific acumen...
>
> spin all you wish, i proved you wrong and its obvious that it burns. :-)
You still want to play 'Scientist and Dumbass'... OK.. :)
> > They're not lining up to
> > support you
>
> heh....its been such easy work that "support" simply isnt required.
You don't know what mental work is... remember
dropping out?
> > my personal email from this
> > little flamefest is going %100 my way.
>
> BUWHAHAHA! the old "my email" ploy. i _knew_ it was only a matter of time
> before you resorted that that one. :-)
Well?
> > Seriously, using a leak-checker manual to debate
> > the NOAA.
>
> the NOAA statement is nothing more than "could be's". my link, written by
> the very engineers you seem to worship, clearly states that refrigerant
> falls due to its weight with no room for doubt. you can pout, cry, whine,
> or attempt to spin off the issue as many times as you like but the statement
> is absolute and conclusive. here ya go. :-)
http://www.al.noaa.gov/WWWHD/pubdocs/StratO3.html
<>
In the stratosphere, the region of the atmosphere between about 10 and 50
kilometers (6-30 miles) above the Earth's surface, ozone (O3) plays a vital
role by absorbing harmful ultraviolet radiation from the sun. Stratospheric
ozone is threatened by some of the human-made gases that have been released
into the atmosphere, including those known as chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs).
Once widely used as propellants in spray cans, refrigerants, electronics
cleaning agents, and in foam and insulating products, the CFCs had been
hailed as the "wonder chemicals." But the very properties that make them
useful - chemical inertness, non-toxicity, insolubility in water - also make
them resistant to removal in the lower atmosphere.
CFCs are mixed worldwide by the large-scale motions of the atmosphere and
survive until, after 1-2 years, they reach the stratosphere and are broken
down by ultraviolet radiation. The chlorine atoms within them are released
and directly attack ozone. In the process of destroying ozone, the chlorine
atoms are regenerated and begin to attack other ozone molecules... and so
on, for thousands of cycles before the chlorine atoms are removed from the
stratosphere by other processes.
</>
When will you respond to this link I've posted thrice now?
__
Steve
playing 'Scientist and Dumbass'....
guess who stars as Dumbass...
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#983
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11apkb8664dqgb3@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Mf1re.80$kX4.58@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
> > What an incredible lack of scientific acumen...
>
> spin all you wish, i proved you wrong and its obvious that it burns. :-)
You still want to play 'Scientist and Dumbass'... OK.. :)
> > They're not lining up to
> > support you
>
> heh....its been such easy work that "support" simply isnt required.
You don't know what mental work is... remember
dropping out?
> > my personal email from this
> > little flamefest is going %100 my way.
>
> BUWHAHAHA! the old "my email" ploy. i _knew_ it was only a matter of time
> before you resorted that that one. :-)
Well?
> > Seriously, using a leak-checker manual to debate
> > the NOAA.
>
> the NOAA statement is nothing more than "could be's". my link, written by
> the very engineers you seem to worship, clearly states that refrigerant
> falls due to its weight with no room for doubt. you can pout, cry, whine,
> or attempt to spin off the issue as many times as you like but the statement
> is absolute and conclusive. here ya go. :-)
http://www.al.noaa.gov/WWWHD/pubdocs/StratO3.html
<>
In the stratosphere, the region of the atmosphere between about 10 and 50
kilometers (6-30 miles) above the Earth's surface, ozone (O3) plays a vital
role by absorbing harmful ultraviolet radiation from the sun. Stratospheric
ozone is threatened by some of the human-made gases that have been released
into the atmosphere, including those known as chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs).
Once widely used as propellants in spray cans, refrigerants, electronics
cleaning agents, and in foam and insulating products, the CFCs had been
hailed as the "wonder chemicals." But the very properties that make them
useful - chemical inertness, non-toxicity, insolubility in water - also make
them resistant to removal in the lower atmosphere.
CFCs are mixed worldwide by the large-scale motions of the atmosphere and
survive until, after 1-2 years, they reach the stratosphere and are broken
down by ultraviolet radiation. The chlorine atoms within them are released
and directly attack ozone. In the process of destroying ozone, the chlorine
atoms are regenerated and begin to attack other ozone molecules... and so
on, for thousands of cycles before the chlorine atoms are removed from the
stratosphere by other processes.
</>
When will you respond to this link I've posted thrice now?
__
Steve
playing 'Scientist and Dumbass'....
guess who stars as Dumbass...
..
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11apkb8664dqgb3@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Mf1re.80$kX4.58@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
> > What an incredible lack of scientific acumen...
>
> spin all you wish, i proved you wrong and its obvious that it burns. :-)
You still want to play 'Scientist and Dumbass'... OK.. :)
> > They're not lining up to
> > support you
>
> heh....its been such easy work that "support" simply isnt required.
You don't know what mental work is... remember
dropping out?
> > my personal email from this
> > little flamefest is going %100 my way.
>
> BUWHAHAHA! the old "my email" ploy. i _knew_ it was only a matter of time
> before you resorted that that one. :-)
Well?
> > Seriously, using a leak-checker manual to debate
> > the NOAA.
>
> the NOAA statement is nothing more than "could be's". my link, written by
> the very engineers you seem to worship, clearly states that refrigerant
> falls due to its weight with no room for doubt. you can pout, cry, whine,
> or attempt to spin off the issue as many times as you like but the statement
> is absolute and conclusive. here ya go. :-)
http://www.al.noaa.gov/WWWHD/pubdocs/StratO3.html
<>
In the stratosphere, the region of the atmosphere between about 10 and 50
kilometers (6-30 miles) above the Earth's surface, ozone (O3) plays a vital
role by absorbing harmful ultraviolet radiation from the sun. Stratospheric
ozone is threatened by some of the human-made gases that have been released
into the atmosphere, including those known as chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs).
Once widely used as propellants in spray cans, refrigerants, electronics
cleaning agents, and in foam and insulating products, the CFCs had been
hailed as the "wonder chemicals." But the very properties that make them
useful - chemical inertness, non-toxicity, insolubility in water - also make
them resistant to removal in the lower atmosphere.
CFCs are mixed worldwide by the large-scale motions of the atmosphere and
survive until, after 1-2 years, they reach the stratosphere and are broken
down by ultraviolet radiation. The chlorine atoms within them are released
and directly attack ozone. In the process of destroying ozone, the chlorine
atoms are regenerated and begin to attack other ozone molecules... and so
on, for thousands of cycles before the chlorine atoms are removed from the
stratosphere by other processes.
</>
When will you respond to this link I've posted thrice now?
__
Steve
playing 'Scientist and Dumbass'....
guess who stars as Dumbass...
..
#985
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11apkb8664dqgb3@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Mf1re.80$kX4.58@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
> > What an incredible lack of scientific acumen...
>
> spin all you wish, i proved you wrong and its obvious that it burns. :-)
You still want to play 'Scientist and Dumbass'... OK.. :)
> > They're not lining up to
> > support you
>
> heh....its been such easy work that "support" simply isnt required.
You don't know what mental work is... remember
dropping out?
> > my personal email from this
> > little flamefest is going %100 my way.
>
> BUWHAHAHA! the old "my email" ploy. i _knew_ it was only a matter of time
> before you resorted that that one. :-)
Well?
> > Seriously, using a leak-checker manual to debate
> > the NOAA.
>
> the NOAA statement is nothing more than "could be's". my link, written by
> the very engineers you seem to worship, clearly states that refrigerant
> falls due to its weight with no room for doubt. you can pout, cry, whine,
> or attempt to spin off the issue as many times as you like but the statement
> is absolute and conclusive. here ya go. :-)
http://www.al.noaa.gov/WWWHD/pubdocs/StratO3.html
<>
In the stratosphere, the region of the atmosphere between about 10 and 50
kilometers (6-30 miles) above the Earth's surface, ozone (O3) plays a vital
role by absorbing harmful ultraviolet radiation from the sun. Stratospheric
ozone is threatened by some of the human-made gases that have been released
into the atmosphere, including those known as chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs).
Once widely used as propellants in spray cans, refrigerants, electronics
cleaning agents, and in foam and insulating products, the CFCs had been
hailed as the "wonder chemicals." But the very properties that make them
useful - chemical inertness, non-toxicity, insolubility in water - also make
them resistant to removal in the lower atmosphere.
CFCs are mixed worldwide by the large-scale motions of the atmosphere and
survive until, after 1-2 years, they reach the stratosphere and are broken
down by ultraviolet radiation. The chlorine atoms within them are released
and directly attack ozone. In the process of destroying ozone, the chlorine
atoms are regenerated and begin to attack other ozone molecules... and so
on, for thousands of cycles before the chlorine atoms are removed from the
stratosphere by other processes.
</>
When will you respond to this link I've posted thrice now?
__
Steve
playing 'Scientist and Dumbass'....
guess who stars as Dumbass...
..
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:u92re.49538$G8.22434@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Question: At this stage, do you two think you can convince the other ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Question: Who do *you* believe, Dave? Remember
the trade winds?
Obviously, there's no convincing going on...
but I'm having fun wiping up the floor.
As long as Nate keeps weebling back up,
I'm punching...
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Steve
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:u92re.49538$G8.22434@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Question: At this stage, do you two think you can convince the other ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Question: Who do *you* believe, Dave? Remember
the trade winds?
Obviously, there's no convincing going on...
but I'm having fun wiping up the floor.
As long as Nate keeps weebling back up,
I'm punching...
__
Steve
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:u92re.49538$G8.22434@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Question: At this stage, do you two think you can convince the other ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Question: Who do *you* believe, Dave? Remember
the trade winds?
Obviously, there's no convincing going on...
but I'm having fun wiping up the floor.
As long as Nate keeps weebling back up,
I'm punching...
__
Steve
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:u92re.49538$G8.22434@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Question: At this stage, do you two think you can convince the other ?
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
Question: Who do *you* believe, Dave? Remember
the trade winds?
Obviously, there's no convincing going on...
but I'm having fun wiping up the floor.
As long as Nate keeps weebling back up,
I'm punching...
__
Steve
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11apkeip0pkd81d@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Gi1re.83$kX4.59@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
> >> but the "Refrigerant has a higher specific volume than air, therefore
> >> refrigerants will fall when exposed to atmospheric pressures." certainly
> >> is!
>
> >Outdoors?
>
> that statement is absolute. atomic weight does not change being in or out
> of doors.
>
> nice try, liberal. :-)
So, your answer is, hold the probe
directly under the leak, even in the
wind? Why not downwind, human?
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Steve
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