"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11ammntrdbjq659@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:dkGqe.2575$751.698@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com ...
> >> because your own links are nothing more than "could be's".
>
> > No they're not...
>
> lol......now THERES something conclusive. <rolling eyes>

They're not!

> >> TRANSLATION --> "i have no real response for the links you provided".
>
> >Selective reading is a trait we don't share...
>
> lol what a stool! i gave you links from the hvac industry which CLEARLY
> support my statements (ill quote them again for the benefit of anyone in
> doubt about how ignorant you really are) and you just will not respond
> directly. :-)

Go ahead...

> > > from http://www.bacharach-training.com/methods.htm near the bottom
> > > under
> > > electronic leak detectors:
> > > "Refrigerant has a higher specific volume than air, therefore
> > > refrigerants
> > > will fall when exposed to atmospheric pressures. This means leak
> > > detecting
> > > on the bottom sides of the piping or components will be more effective
> > > in
> > > detecting a leak and will save you time."

"will be more effective "... that's not conclusive!


> > > from http://tif.com/manuals/TIFZX1.pdf (operating manual of the
> > > electronic
> > > leak detector that i personally use)
> > > "Be aware that refrigerants are invariably heavier than air and will
> > > tend
> > > to
> > > fall from or collect below actual leak points/sources. Searching below
> > > areas of potential leaks is invariably the most effective and reliable
> > > way
> > > of finding such."

"tend to fall"? That's not conclusive!

>
> >> those same engineers that you present as being omnipotent wrote the very
> >> manuals that CLEARLY show that refrigerants FALL due to their weight.
>
> > Spoken like a true HVAC altar boy
>
> TRANSLATION --> "youre right nate!" :-) your pitiful attempts at dodging
> my links are funny at this point. that you would defend your statements
> further show your ignorance. youre downright pitiful and i find you quite
> hilarious. i think ill continue to quote these responses. :-)

Your HVAC training links are not worthy of consideration...
however, I did go back and show that even your little
techie links have inconclusive parts to them. Chew on it.

What's the concentration of Freon, Nate?

> > answer me
> > this... outside, on a windy day, where do you hold
> > the leak check probe? BE SPECIFIC.
>
> lol you stool the wind doesnt blow from ground level to the stratosphere.

You can't answer a simple HVAC tech question! I've
even posted links to information about the Polar Vortex...
useless, you refuse to acknowlege them. This is not
an argument, this is a shouting contest. We can both
shout all day long, and make this the longest sorry
OT thread in history... but I'll be the Scientist, and
you'll be the Dumbass, and that's the way that the
archives will have it for eternity.


> > It ain't science, I can certify that.
>
> thats what ive been trying to tell you. your statements arent science.
> theyre agenda driven speculation and nothing more.

NOAA, Nate... vs techie training manuals.


> > Engineers, Nate...
>
> yup. those same engineers wrote the very manuals that i quoted for you.
> funny, huh? :-)

Not as funny as that smiley up your ***! :)

> >> the same engineer that wrote the manuals supporting my statements. :-)
>
> > As I said... the Higher Knowlege is not for you.
>
> lol those same engineers wrote the manuals that i quoted for you (yes, ill
> continue to say that to show what a fool you are and how pitiful your
> argument has become) :-)

Keep doing it, Nate... I won't give up. You
are a fool. We all know this.

> > Higher Knowlege, Nate.... not for you.
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i have no response"

No, it's my actual response. You are not fit
for engineering, Nate... you don't have the
correct mindset. Remain a tech, and be happy...
rest assured that the engineers will make rules
to keep you from doing harm. Break the rules,
lose your piece of paper, and your mealticket.
You'll damn well do what the scientist tells you
to do... at least, while someone is watching.
__
Steve
..

 

Heh, the coroner is one of us who quit the ambulance association in protest.
I guess that removes that potential conflict of interest, but seriously,
things are messed up here. Maybe I'll post my newsletter, the one I sent to
the town after I got real fed up. I would like to see this conflict
resolved soon, but people are too stubborn to admit that I am right. I am
sure that Mr. Bush and Co. feel the same way.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42AB91B1.FBDE894B@***.net...
> So there's no chance you may take your ambulance, the one with the
> hammer that decides whether those drives get a kickback from the
> mortuary.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > This is home now. I think I know a little how Mr. Bush feels now, too.
I
> > have half the town thinking I am a vengeful, spiteful maniac, and the
other
> > half hoping I "get the bastards". You said something before about being
in
> > "for the long haul". What I like about the current situation is that I
now
> > know who my friends are.
> >
> > A previous county commissioner left town after losing an election, by
ten
> > votes. Don't believe what anyone tells you about this being a friendly
> > little mining town. Authentic maybe. And if you want to tell everyone
how
> > you feel on an issue, it will cost about two hundred bucks worth of
> > stationery and postage. I wrote "permission granted to distribute
copies"
> > on my last news letter, and people took my word for it too...
> >
> > Earle

 

Heh, the coroner is one of us who quit the ambulance association in protest.
I guess that removes that potential conflict of interest, but seriously,
things are messed up here. Maybe I'll post my newsletter, the one I sent to
the town after I got real fed up. I would like to see this conflict
resolved soon, but people are too stubborn to admit that I am right. I am
sure that Mr. Bush and Co. feel the same way.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42AB91B1.FBDE894B@***.net...
> So there's no chance you may take your ambulance, the one with the
> hammer that decides whether those drives get a kickback from the
> mortuary.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > This is home now. I think I know a little how Mr. Bush feels now, too.
I
> > have half the town thinking I am a vengeful, spiteful maniac, and the
other
> > half hoping I "get the bastards". You said something before about being
in
> > "for the long haul". What I like about the current situation is that I
now
> > know who my friends are.
> >
> > A previous county commissioner left town after losing an election, by
ten
> > votes. Don't believe what anyone tells you about this being a friendly
> > little mining town. Authentic maybe. And if you want to tell everyone
how
> > you feel on an issue, it will cost about two hundred bucks worth of
> > stationery and postage. I wrote "permission granted to distribute
copies"
> > on my last news letter, and people took my word for it too...
> >
> > Earle

 

Heh, the coroner is one of us who quit the ambulance association in protest.
I guess that removes that potential conflict of interest, but seriously,
things are messed up here. Maybe I'll post my newsletter, the one I sent to
the town after I got real fed up. I would like to see this conflict
resolved soon, but people are too stubborn to admit that I am right. I am
sure that Mr. Bush and Co. feel the same way.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42AB91B1.FBDE894B@***.net...
> So there's no chance you may take your ambulance, the one with the
> hammer that decides whether those drives get a kickback from the
> mortuary.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > This is home now. I think I know a little how Mr. Bush feels now, too.
I
> > have half the town thinking I am a vengeful, spiteful maniac, and the
other
> > half hoping I "get the bastards". You said something before about being
in
> > "for the long haul". What I like about the current situation is that I
now
> > know who my friends are.
> >
> > A previous county commissioner left town after losing an election, by
ten
> > votes. Don't believe what anyone tells you about this being a friendly
> > little mining town. Authentic maybe. And if you want to tell everyone
how
> > you feel on an issue, it will cost about two hundred bucks worth of
> > stationery and postage. I wrote "permission granted to distribute
copies"
> > on my last news letter, and people took my word for it too...
> >
> > Earle

 

Heh, the coroner is one of us who quit the ambulance association in protest.
I guess that removes that potential conflict of interest, but seriously,
things are messed up here. Maybe I'll post my newsletter, the one I sent to
the town after I got real fed up. I would like to see this conflict
resolved soon, but people are too stubborn to admit that I am right. I am
sure that Mr. Bush and Co. feel the same way.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:42AB91B1.FBDE894B@***.net...
> So there's no chance you may take your ambulance, the one with the
> hammer that decides whether those drives get a kickback from the
> mortuary.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > This is home now. I think I know a little how Mr. Bush feels now, too.
I
> > have half the town thinking I am a vengeful, spiteful maniac, and the
other
> > half hoping I "get the bastards". You said something before about being
in
> > "for the long haul". What I like about the current situation is that I
now
> > know who my friends are.
> >
> > A previous county commissioner left town after losing an election, by
ten
> > votes. Don't believe what anyone tells you about this being a friendly
> > little mining town. Authentic maybe. And if you want to tell everyone
how
> > you feel on an issue, it will cost about two hundred bucks worth of
> > stationery and postage. I wrote "permission granted to distribute
copies"
> > on my last news letter, and people took my word for it too...
> >
> > Earle

 

"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:2vYqe.19$kX4.18@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...

>> like the links i showed you from "engineers" which clearly show
>> refrigerant
>> falls due to its weight.

> Higher Knowlege... not for you.

TRANSLATION --> "i have no response nate, i never expected you to prove me
wrong".


> Fool... what's the concentration of Freon?

depends on how much is vented, but id bet its less than
..000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000001% of the total air
around us. :-)


> ask some of your compatriots here.

lol theyre laughing at you, only youre to stupid to realize it, and to
ignorant to know when to quit. its cool, ill continue to post my links
which are written by your engineers that prove you are dead wrong. :-)

here they are again:
from http://www.bacharach-training.com/methods.htm near the bottom under
electronic leak detectors:
"Refrigerant has a higher specific volume than air, therefore refrigerants
will fall when exposed to atmospheric pressures. This means leak detecting
on the bottom sides of the piping or components will be more effective in
detecting a leak and will save you time."

from http://tif.com/manuals/TIFZX1.pdf (operating manual of the electronic
leak detector that i personally use):
"Be aware that refrigerants are invariably heavier than air and will tend to
fall from or collect below actual leak points/sources. Searching below
areas of potential leaks is invariably the most effective and reliable way
of finding such."

:-)

> What weapons? The ones that were destroyed?

the ones everyone (without their head stuck in the sand) knows existed and
still exist today. just look at the things we _did_ find.


> They were from HVAC training courses, fer chrissakes.

--------! the second link is the operators manual for the leak detector
that i personnally use. the leak detector AND manual which was designed and
written by those same engineers you swear by. :-)

> I posted NOAA quotes and links that you haven't
> responded to

now on top of being an ignorant fool, youre a LIAR. i know in your liberal
seminars they teach you that if you tell a like often enough people will
eventually believe it but that wont fly here. i responded MANY times to
your links CLEARLY showing you the "could be's" that invalidates anything
from being conclusive.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

 

"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:2vYqe.19$kX4.18@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...

>> like the links i showed you from "engineers" which clearly show
>> refrigerant
>> falls due to its weight.

> Higher Knowlege... not for you.

TRANSLATION --> "i have no response nate, i never expected you to prove me
wrong".


> Fool... what's the concentration of Freon?

depends on how much is vented, but id bet its less than
..000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000001% of the total air
around us. :-)


> ask some of your compatriots here.

lol theyre laughing at you, only youre to stupid to realize it, and to
ignorant to know when to quit. its cool, ill continue to post my links
which are written by your engineers that prove you are dead wrong. :-)

here they are again:
from http://www.bacharach-training.com/methods.htm near the bottom under
electronic leak detectors:
"Refrigerant has a higher specific volume than air, therefore refrigerants
will fall when exposed to atmospheric pressures. This means leak detecting
on the bottom sides of the piping or components will be more effective in
detecting a leak and will save you time."

from http://tif.com/manuals/TIFZX1.pdf (operating manual of the electronic
leak detector that i personally use):
"Be aware that refrigerants are invariably heavier than air and will tend to
fall from or collect below actual leak points/sources. Searching below
areas of potential leaks is invariably the most effective and reliable way
of finding such."

:-)

> What weapons? The ones that were destroyed?

the ones everyone (without their head stuck in the sand) knows existed and
still exist today. just look at the things we _did_ find.


> They were from HVAC training courses, fer chrissakes.

--------! the second link is the operators manual for the leak detector
that i personnally use. the leak detector AND manual which was designed and
written by those same engineers you swear by. :-)

> I posted NOAA quotes and links that you haven't
> responded to

now on top of being an ignorant fool, youre a LIAR. i know in your liberal
seminars they teach you that if you tell a like often enough people will
eventually believe it but that wont fly here. i responded MANY times to
your links CLEARLY showing you the "could be's" that invalidates anything
from being conclusive.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

 

"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:2vYqe.19$kX4.18@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...

>> like the links i showed you from "engineers" which clearly show
>> refrigerant
>> falls due to its weight.

> Higher Knowlege... not for you.

TRANSLATION --> "i have no response nate, i never expected you to prove me
wrong".


> Fool... what's the concentration of Freon?

depends on how much is vented, but id bet its less than
..000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000001% of the total air
around us. :-)


> ask some of your compatriots here.

lol theyre laughing at you, only youre to stupid to realize it, and to
ignorant to know when to quit. its cool, ill continue to post my links
which are written by your engineers that prove you are dead wrong. :-)

here they are again:
from http://www.bacharach-training.com/methods.htm near the bottom under
electronic leak detectors:
"Refrigerant has a higher specific volume than air, therefore refrigerants
will fall when exposed to atmospheric pressures. This means leak detecting
on the bottom sides of the piping or components will be more effective in
detecting a leak and will save you time."

from http://tif.com/manuals/TIFZX1.pdf (operating manual of the electronic
leak detector that i personally use):
"Be aware that refrigerants are invariably heavier than air and will tend to
fall from or collect below actual leak points/sources. Searching below
areas of potential leaks is invariably the most effective and reliable way
of finding such."

:-)

> What weapons? The ones that were destroyed?

the ones everyone (without their head stuck in the sand) knows existed and
still exist today. just look at the things we _did_ find.


> They were from HVAC training courses, fer chrissakes.

--------! the second link is the operators manual for the leak detector
that i personnally use. the leak detector AND manual which was designed and
written by those same engineers you swear by. :-)

> I posted NOAA quotes and links that you haven't
> responded to

now on top of being an ignorant fool, youre a LIAR. i know in your liberal
seminars they teach you that if you tell a like often enough people will
eventually believe it but that wont fly here. i responded MANY times to
your links CLEARLY showing you the "could be's" that invalidates anything
from being conclusive.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

 

"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:2vYqe.19$kX4.18@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...

>> like the links i showed you from "engineers" which clearly show
>> refrigerant
>> falls due to its weight.

> Higher Knowlege... not for you.

TRANSLATION --> "i have no response nate, i never expected you to prove me
wrong".


> Fool... what's the concentration of Freon?

depends on how much is vented, but id bet its less than
..000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000001% of the total air
around us. :-)


> ask some of your compatriots here.

lol theyre laughing at you, only youre to stupid to realize it, and to
ignorant to know when to quit. its cool, ill continue to post my links
which are written by your engineers that prove you are dead wrong. :-)

here they are again:
from http://www.bacharach-training.com/methods.htm near the bottom under
electronic leak detectors:
"Refrigerant has a higher specific volume than air, therefore refrigerants
will fall when exposed to atmospheric pressures. This means leak detecting
on the bottom sides of the piping or components will be more effective in
detecting a leak and will save you time."

from http://tif.com/manuals/TIFZX1.pdf (operating manual of the electronic
leak detector that i personally use):
"Be aware that refrigerants are invariably heavier than air and will tend to
fall from or collect below actual leak points/sources. Searching below
areas of potential leaks is invariably the most effective and reliable way
of finding such."

:-)

> What weapons? The ones that were destroyed?

the ones everyone (without their head stuck in the sand) knows existed and
still exist today. just look at the things we _did_ find.


> They were from HVAC training courses, fer chrissakes.

--------! the second link is the operators manual for the leak detector
that i personnally use. the leak detector AND manual which was designed and
written by those same engineers you swear by. :-)

> I posted NOAA quotes and links that you haven't
> responded to

now on top of being an ignorant fool, youre a LIAR. i know in your liberal
seminars they teach you that if you tell a like often enough people will
eventually believe it but that wont fly here. i responded MANY times to
your links CLEARLY showing you the "could be's" that invalidates anything
from being conclusive.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

 

"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:%HYqe.21$kX4.8@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
>> lol......now THERES something conclusive. <rolling eyes>

> They're not!

EXACTLY! your links are not conclusive. :-)


> > > from http://www.bacharach-training.com/methods.htm near the bottom
> > > under
> > > electronic leak detectors:
> > > "Refrigerant has a higher specific volume than air, therefore
> > > refrigerants
> > > will fall when exposed to atmospheric pressures. This means leak
> > > detecting
> > > on the bottom sides of the piping or components will be more effective
> > > in
> > > detecting a leak and will save you time."

> "will be more effective "... that's not conclusive!

but the "Refrigerant has a higher specific volume than air, therefore
refrigerants will fall when exposed to atmospheric pressures." certainly is!
:-)


> Your HVAC training links are not worthy of consideration...

TRANSLATION --> "i have no response because they clearly prove what youve
been saying"


> NOAA, Nate

......which says nothing beyond "could be's". :-)

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com