Found an incredibly simple equation that even you may comprehend
for computing the volume with a stick:
http://homepages.gac.edu/~pnichols/m...nk/nocalc.html Maybe
how you'll see that just finding the area of a circle times the length
and dividing it by two for half a tank only works for that half a stick
level. BUT I DOUBT IT! And don't tell me you don't see cosine in the
formula!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> See? No grasp of induction... can't even draw
> a picture. You don't have any clue about how
> to break down the calculation, even though you
> cut-and-pasted some google explanation of it.
> Did you not read the explanation, or did you
> just not understand it? What I really mean is,
> are you just lazy, or stupid? Recall that you
> posted:
>
> <>
> Now consider the area outside of the segment. That is, we want
> the area of a portion of the circle. If we measure z in degrees we
> want the portion of the circle that takes up 360 - 2z degrees of the
> circle. So, the fraction we are dealing with here is:
> </>
>
> If you drew the picture, you'd see the pie wedge...
> two of them, actually. Comprende?
>
> Is that a statement, or a question? I can't
> make sense of it either way, anyway...
>
> For the logarithm of the square of the mare?
>
> All I read is arcsin, Bill... btw, do you have any
> clue what the difference is? Could you possibly
> explain to me why anyone would need to use an
> arcsin function?
>
> I noticed that you dropped the subject of:
> Busted your huevos thoroughly on that one!
> __
> Steve

 

Found an incredibly simple equation that even you may comprehend
for computing the volume with a stick:
http://homepages.gac.edu/~pnichols/m...nk/nocalc.html Maybe
how you'll see that just finding the area of a circle times the length
and dividing it by two for half a tank only works for that half a stick
level. BUT I DOUBT IT! And don't tell me you don't see cosine in the
formula!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> See? No grasp of induction... can't even draw
> a picture. You don't have any clue about how
> to break down the calculation, even though you
> cut-and-pasted some google explanation of it.
> Did you not read the explanation, or did you
> just not understand it? What I really mean is,
> are you just lazy, or stupid? Recall that you
> posted:
>
> <>
> Now consider the area outside of the segment. That is, we want
> the area of a portion of the circle. If we measure z in degrees we
> want the portion of the circle that takes up 360 - 2z degrees of the
> circle. So, the fraction we are dealing with here is:
> </>
>
> If you drew the picture, you'd see the pie wedge...
> two of them, actually. Comprende?
>
> Is that a statement, or a question? I can't
> make sense of it either way, anyway...
>
> For the logarithm of the square of the mare?
>
> All I read is arcsin, Bill... btw, do you have any
> clue what the difference is? Could you possibly
> explain to me why anyone would need to use an
> arcsin function?
>
> I noticed that you dropped the subject of:
> Busted your huevos thoroughly on that one!
> __
> Steve

 

Found an incredibly simple equation that even you may comprehend
for computing the volume with a stick:
http://homepages.gac.edu/~pnichols/m...nk/nocalc.html Maybe
how you'll see that just finding the area of a circle times the length
and dividing it by two for half a tank only works for that half a stick
level. BUT I DOUBT IT! And don't tell me you don't see cosine in the
formula!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> See? No grasp of induction... can't even draw
> a picture. You don't have any clue about how
> to break down the calculation, even though you
> cut-and-pasted some google explanation of it.
> Did you not read the explanation, or did you
> just not understand it? What I really mean is,
> are you just lazy, or stupid? Recall that you
> posted:
>
> <>
> Now consider the area outside of the segment. That is, we want
> the area of a portion of the circle. If we measure z in degrees we
> want the portion of the circle that takes up 360 - 2z degrees of the
> circle. So, the fraction we are dealing with here is:
> </>
>
> If you drew the picture, you'd see the pie wedge...
> two of them, actually. Comprende?
>
> Is that a statement, or a question? I can't
> make sense of it either way, anyway...
>
> For the logarithm of the square of the mare?
>
> All I read is arcsin, Bill... btw, do you have any
> clue what the difference is? Could you possibly
> explain to me why anyone would need to use an
> arcsin function?
>
> I noticed that you dropped the subject of:
> Busted your huevos thoroughly on that one!
> __
> Steve

 

"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11fgchnk7q6o569@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:_1VJe.121$O07.45@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net.. .
> >> TRANSLATION --> "i have no response". :-) it was in my very first
post
> > to
> >> you telling you what an HMc was to begin with. you choked on it boy.
> >> :-)
> >
> > That post had no challenge
>
> --------! you stepped up to my challenge to jeff and i clarified it for
you
> because jeff didnt step outside his own limitations.

You only gave an example of 'in a pinch'... there was no
additional specification to the challenge, and that post
had no challenge in it. Therefore, the original post
maintains primacy... it is the spec of the challenge,
and no low-ambient condition was spec'ed. I happen
to know that without this condition, it's not even
necessary to have a head pressure control in a system...
as I said before, these controls give the system more
thermal bandwidth. You ----ed up, and refuse to
acknowlege it.

> unlike you, despite
> our differences in opinions he wasnt going to speak from total ignorance.

Kinda like you and the ozone layer?

> you should pay attention because im getting ready to wipe the floor with
you
> again.

Oh, I must have missed any other time... not.
You have serious reality-grasp problems.

> > We're not talking about 'changing' the head pressure
> > control... that never came up. We're stuck 'in a pinch',
> > which means we don't have a replacement part on
> > hand...
>
> -30 degrees, part unavailable, for WHATEVER reason (im not going to argue
> small points with you, its just to easy to kick your *** with what you
wrote
> below to bother with) you still have to regulate head pressure on low temp
> applications one way or another.

There was no -30 degree spec... we can
all read. And now you're waffling on
the parts availability... didn't you just write:

<>
> > Then why the incredible battle over low ambient?
>
> because without it there is little reason to not just
> change the HMC so you
> can complete the job in one service call instead
> of having to return later to replace it.
</>

OK, are you confused? Do we have parts,
or not?

> oh ive the answer ready, just waiting on you to say "i dont know" :-)

Here's the deal... I'll admit ignorance of HVAC if
you'll admit ignorance of atmospheric science.
This ain't gonna happen, we all know... you can
dish it out, but you can't take it... not a sport.

> > The valves had no functional duty
>
> LIAR! wouldnt matter anyway, your suggestion is just as STUPID. :-)

Why would there be two valves on the straight
piece of pipe, if I was lying? If the valve was
meant to control something, all you'd need would
be one valve, right? *Man*, you're dense!

> > ... they were spec'ed
> > to allow later replacement of the faulty head pressure
> > control.
>
> and i think that suggestion is even more PITIFUL than your first. :-)
lets
> see how many times you can change your story to come up with another one.

Why two valves? If you have two valves, you
can turn them off, then insert the regulator.
If you want to control something, you only
need one valve. I'm not lying, and once again
you prove yourself the consummate -------.

> > The changing load is handled by the thermo-
> > electric valve... the 'needle valve' I mentioned in my
> > first challenge answer. Ever hear of a TEV?
>
> BUWHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! the expansion valve regulates pressure going into the
> EVAPORATOR. the HMC regulates HEAD pressure at the condensor!

Take some refrigerant out, and run without the head
pressure control. It's just as simple as that... just make
sure that you replace the regulator before low ambient
happens.

> > You can't, or won't, accept the truth
>
> youve given me NOTHING conclusive from a credible source.

Now you're lying... and stonewalling. What
a creep... I don't see how people can do
business with you.

> > You welched on a challenge that you
> > issued
>
> you havent met the challenge.

Obviously you're trying to get
additional specs into the challenge
that were not part of the original
post... this means two things...
I'm on the right track, and you
are a king welch.

> > You claimed that a mixture and a compound
> > were the same thing
>
> LIAR

We all read it, Nate... what is it called
when you call someone that's telling the
truth a liar? Oh, yeah.... lying. See below.

> > You keep calling me a liar
>
> ....you keep lying.

Didn't we all read your sentence?
<>
yeah no ----! refrigerant is a compound, a MIXTURE and when you add up
all the components they are heavier than the individual components.
</>

Now who's the liar?
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
..

 

"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11fgchnk7q6o569@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:_1VJe.121$O07.45@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net.. .
> >> TRANSLATION --> "i have no response". :-) it was in my very first
post
> > to
> >> you telling you what an HMc was to begin with. you choked on it boy.
> >> :-)
> >
> > That post had no challenge
>
> --------! you stepped up to my challenge to jeff and i clarified it for
you
> because jeff didnt step outside his own limitations.

You only gave an example of 'in a pinch'... there was no
additional specification to the challenge, and that post
had no challenge in it. Therefore, the original post
maintains primacy... it is the spec of the challenge,
and no low-ambient condition was spec'ed. I happen
to know that without this condition, it's not even
necessary to have a head pressure control in a system...
as I said before, these controls give the system more
thermal bandwidth. You ----ed up, and refuse to
acknowlege it.

> unlike you, despite
> our differences in opinions he wasnt going to speak from total ignorance.

Kinda like you and the ozone layer?

> you should pay attention because im getting ready to wipe the floor with
you
> again.

Oh, I must have missed any other time... not.
You have serious reality-grasp problems.

> > We're not talking about 'changing' the head pressure
> > control... that never came up. We're stuck 'in a pinch',
> > which means we don't have a replacement part on
> > hand...
>
> -30 degrees, part unavailable, for WHATEVER reason (im not going to argue
> small points with you, its just to easy to kick your *** with what you
wrote
> below to bother with) you still have to regulate head pressure on low temp
> applications one way or another.

There was no -30 degree spec... we can
all read. And now you're waffling on
the parts availability... didn't you just write:

<>
> > Then why the incredible battle over low ambient?
>
> because without it there is little reason to not just
> change the HMC so you
> can complete the job in one service call instead
> of having to return later to replace it.
</>

OK, are you confused? Do we have parts,
or not?

> oh ive the answer ready, just waiting on you to say "i dont know" :-)

Here's the deal... I'll admit ignorance of HVAC if
you'll admit ignorance of atmospheric science.
This ain't gonna happen, we all know... you can
dish it out, but you can't take it... not a sport.

> > The valves had no functional duty
>
> LIAR! wouldnt matter anyway, your suggestion is just as STUPID. :-)

Why would there be two valves on the straight
piece of pipe, if I was lying? If the valve was
meant to control something, all you'd need would
be one valve, right? *Man*, you're dense!

> > ... they were spec'ed
> > to allow later replacement of the faulty head pressure
> > control.
>
> and i think that suggestion is even more PITIFUL than your first. :-)
lets
> see how many times you can change your story to come up with another one.

Why two valves? If you have two valves, you
can turn them off, then insert the regulator.
If you want to control something, you only
need one valve. I'm not lying, and once again
you prove yourself the consummate -------.

> > The changing load is handled by the thermo-
> > electric valve... the 'needle valve' I mentioned in my
> > first challenge answer. Ever hear of a TEV?
>
> BUWHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! the expansion valve regulates pressure going into the
> EVAPORATOR. the HMC regulates HEAD pressure at the condensor!

Take some refrigerant out, and run without the head
pressure control. It's just as simple as that... just make
sure that you replace the regulator before low ambient
happens.

> > You can't, or won't, accept the truth
>
> youve given me NOTHING conclusive from a credible source.

Now you're lying... and stonewalling. What
a creep... I don't see how people can do
business with you.

> > You welched on a challenge that you
> > issued
>
> you havent met the challenge.

Obviously you're trying to get
additional specs into the challenge
that were not part of the original
post... this means two things...
I'm on the right track, and you
are a king welch.

> > You claimed that a mixture and a compound
> > were the same thing
>
> LIAR

We all read it, Nate... what is it called
when you call someone that's telling the
truth a liar? Oh, yeah.... lying. See below.

> > You keep calling me a liar
>
> ....you keep lying.

Didn't we all read your sentence?
<>
yeah no ----! refrigerant is a compound, a MIXTURE and when you add up
all the components they are heavier than the individual components.
</>

Now who's the liar?
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
..

 

"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11fgchnk7q6o569@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:_1VJe.121$O07.45@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net.. .
> >> TRANSLATION --> "i have no response". :-) it was in my very first
post
> > to
> >> you telling you what an HMc was to begin with. you choked on it boy.
> >> :-)
> >
> > That post had no challenge
>
> --------! you stepped up to my challenge to jeff and i clarified it for
you
> because jeff didnt step outside his own limitations.

You only gave an example of 'in a pinch'... there was no
additional specification to the challenge, and that post
had no challenge in it. Therefore, the original post
maintains primacy... it is the spec of the challenge,
and no low-ambient condition was spec'ed. I happen
to know that without this condition, it's not even
necessary to have a head pressure control in a system...
as I said before, these controls give the system more
thermal bandwidth. You ----ed up, and refuse to
acknowlege it.

> unlike you, despite
> our differences in opinions he wasnt going to speak from total ignorance.

Kinda like you and the ozone layer?

> you should pay attention because im getting ready to wipe the floor with
you
> again.

Oh, I must have missed any other time... not.
You have serious reality-grasp problems.

> > We're not talking about 'changing' the head pressure
> > control... that never came up. We're stuck 'in a pinch',
> > which means we don't have a replacement part on
> > hand...
>
> -30 degrees, part unavailable, for WHATEVER reason (im not going to argue
> small points with you, its just to easy to kick your *** with what you
wrote
> below to bother with) you still have to regulate head pressure on low temp
> applications one way or another.

There was no -30 degree spec... we can
all read. And now you're waffling on
the parts availability... didn't you just write:

<>
> > Then why the incredible battle over low ambient?
>
> because without it there is little reason to not just
> change the HMC so you
> can complete the job in one service call instead
> of having to return later to replace it.
</>

OK, are you confused? Do we have parts,
or not?

> oh ive the answer ready, just waiting on you to say "i dont know" :-)

Here's the deal... I'll admit ignorance of HVAC if
you'll admit ignorance of atmospheric science.
This ain't gonna happen, we all know... you can
dish it out, but you can't take it... not a sport.

> > The valves had no functional duty
>
> LIAR! wouldnt matter anyway, your suggestion is just as STUPID. :-)

Why would there be two valves on the straight
piece of pipe, if I was lying? If the valve was
meant to control something, all you'd need would
be one valve, right? *Man*, you're dense!

> > ... they were spec'ed
> > to allow later replacement of the faulty head pressure
> > control.
>
> and i think that suggestion is even more PITIFUL than your first. :-)
lets
> see how many times you can change your story to come up with another one.

Why two valves? If you have two valves, you
can turn them off, then insert the regulator.
If you want to control something, you only
need one valve. I'm not lying, and once again
you prove yourself the consummate -------.

> > The changing load is handled by the thermo-
> > electric valve... the 'needle valve' I mentioned in my
> > first challenge answer. Ever hear of a TEV?
>
> BUWHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! the expansion valve regulates pressure going into the
> EVAPORATOR. the HMC regulates HEAD pressure at the condensor!

Take some refrigerant out, and run without the head
pressure control. It's just as simple as that... just make
sure that you replace the regulator before low ambient
happens.

> > You can't, or won't, accept the truth
>
> youve given me NOTHING conclusive from a credible source.

Now you're lying... and stonewalling. What
a creep... I don't see how people can do
business with you.

> > You welched on a challenge that you
> > issued
>
> you havent met the challenge.

Obviously you're trying to get
additional specs into the challenge
that were not part of the original
post... this means two things...
I'm on the right track, and you
are a king welch.

> > You claimed that a mixture and a compound
> > were the same thing
>
> LIAR

We all read it, Nate... what is it called
when you call someone that's telling the
truth a liar? Oh, yeah.... lying. See below.

> > You keep calling me a liar
>
> ....you keep lying.

Didn't we all read your sentence?
<>
yeah no ----! refrigerant is a compound, a MIXTURE and when you add up
all the components they are heavier than the individual components.
</>

Now who's the liar?
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
..

 

"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11fgchnk7q6o569@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:_1VJe.121$O07.45@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net.. .
> >> TRANSLATION --> "i have no response". :-) it was in my very first
post
> > to
> >> you telling you what an HMc was to begin with. you choked on it boy.
> >> :-)
> >
> > That post had no challenge
>
> --------! you stepped up to my challenge to jeff and i clarified it for
you
> because jeff didnt step outside his own limitations.

You only gave an example of 'in a pinch'... there was no
additional specification to the challenge, and that post
had no challenge in it. Therefore, the original post
maintains primacy... it is the spec of the challenge,
and no low-ambient condition was spec'ed. I happen
to know that without this condition, it's not even
necessary to have a head pressure control in a system...
as I said before, these controls give the system more
thermal bandwidth. You ----ed up, and refuse to
acknowlege it.

> unlike you, despite
> our differences in opinions he wasnt going to speak from total ignorance.

Kinda like you and the ozone layer?

> you should pay attention because im getting ready to wipe the floor with
you
> again.

Oh, I must have missed any other time... not.
You have serious reality-grasp problems.

> > We're not talking about 'changing' the head pressure
> > control... that never came up. We're stuck 'in a pinch',
> > which means we don't have a replacement part on
> > hand...
>
> -30 degrees, part unavailable, for WHATEVER reason (im not going to argue
> small points with you, its just to easy to kick your *** with what you
wrote
> below to bother with) you still have to regulate head pressure on low temp
> applications one way or another.

There was no -30 degree spec... we can
all read. And now you're waffling on
the parts availability... didn't you just write:

<>
> > Then why the incredible battle over low ambient?
>
> because without it there is little reason to not just
> change the HMC so you
> can complete the job in one service call instead
> of having to return later to replace it.
</>

OK, are you confused? Do we have parts,
or not?

> oh ive the answer ready, just waiting on you to say "i dont know" :-)

Here's the deal... I'll admit ignorance of HVAC if
you'll admit ignorance of atmospheric science.
This ain't gonna happen, we all know... you can
dish it out, but you can't take it... not a sport.

> > The valves had no functional duty
>
> LIAR! wouldnt matter anyway, your suggestion is just as STUPID. :-)

Why would there be two valves on the straight
piece of pipe, if I was lying? If the valve was
meant to control something, all you'd need would
be one valve, right? *Man*, you're dense!

> > ... they were spec'ed
> > to allow later replacement of the faulty head pressure
> > control.
>
> and i think that suggestion is even more PITIFUL than your first. :-)
lets
> see how many times you can change your story to come up with another one.

Why two valves? If you have two valves, you
can turn them off, then insert the regulator.
If you want to control something, you only
need one valve. I'm not lying, and once again
you prove yourself the consummate -------.

> > The changing load is handled by the thermo-
> > electric valve... the 'needle valve' I mentioned in my
> > first challenge answer. Ever hear of a TEV?
>
> BUWHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! the expansion valve regulates pressure going into the
> EVAPORATOR. the HMC regulates HEAD pressure at the condensor!

Take some refrigerant out, and run without the head
pressure control. It's just as simple as that... just make
sure that you replace the regulator before low ambient
happens.

> > You can't, or won't, accept the truth
>
> youve given me NOTHING conclusive from a credible source.

Now you're lying... and stonewalling. What
a creep... I don't see how people can do
business with you.

> > You welched on a challenge that you
> > issued
>
> you havent met the challenge.

Obviously you're trying to get
additional specs into the challenge
that were not part of the original
post... this means two things...
I'm on the right track, and you
are a king welch.

> > You claimed that a mixture and a compound
> > were the same thing
>
> LIAR

We all read it, Nate... what is it called
when you call someone that's telling the
truth a liar? Oh, yeah.... lying. See below.

> > You keep calling me a liar
>
> ....you keep lying.

Didn't we all read your sentence?
<>
yeah no ----! refrigerant is a compound, a MIXTURE and when you add up
all the components they are heavier than the individual components.
</>

Now who's the liar?
__
Steve
"i recognize my limitations and
immediately own it (sic). " -- Nate
..

 

"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:OiiKe.348$SR5.84@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net.. .
> You only gave an example of 'in a pinch'... there was no
> additional specification to the challenge

--------. i clarified the scenario for you and you still choked on it. :-)


> and no low-ambient condition was spec'ed.

i clearly said -30 degree ambient. shall i link it again? :-)


> I happen
> to know that without this condition, it's not even
> necessary to have a head pressure control in a system...

yeah, i ------- told you that nearly 2 weeks ago. :-)


> as I said before, these controls give the system more
> thermal bandwidth.

thats NOT what it does! it regulates head pressure distribution.


> You ----ed up, and refuse to
> acknowlege it.

lol you are one ignorant, assinine fool. clue boy, i _never_ ---- up when
it comes to refrigeration. :-)


> Kinda like you and the ozone layer?

nope. _nothing_ about ozone depletion is _proven_. its all speculation
which is why you must resort to URLs with "proudliberal" in them. you had
to hunt to find someone lacking the integrity to be honest.


> Oh, I must have missed any other time

no you didnt miss it stephen, youve simply grown to believe your own LIES.
you are a pathlogical liar.


> There was no -30 degree spec

WRONG. see news:11cbop8lt1q84d@corp.supernews.com where i CLEARLY
stated -30 degrees. :-)


> And now you're waffling on
> the parts availability

--------. nice try at smoke and mirrors, wont work. i simply stated that i
dont care what the reason in order to get back to the one basic point.
YOURE FULL OF ----. you have NO IDEA what a realistic alternative to
replacing an HMC would be. :-) play it either way stevie, with or without
parts....with or without ambient......give me a realistic alternative.

you cant. :-)

> Do we have parts,
> or not?

really doesnt matter. take your pick, you still wont be able to answer the
question. :-)


> I'll admit ignorance of HVAC if
> you'll admit ignorance of atmospheric science.

TRANSLATION --> "im a fool, nate".

its abundantly clear that youre completely ignorant when it comes to
refrigeration. when you own it, ill give you the solution.


> Why would there be two valves on the straight
> piece of pipe, if I was lying?

one to regulate what goes to the condensor, one to regulate what bypasses
the condensor.


> If the valve was
> meant to control something, all you'd need would
> be one valve, right?

you obviously dont understand the basic function of an HMC. duh. :-)


> Why two valves? If you have two valves, you
> can turn them off, then insert the regulator.

BZZT. you would still have to pull a vaccuum before releasing the
refrigerant.


>> BUWHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! the expansion valve regulates pressure going into the
>> EVAPORATOR. the HMC regulates HEAD pressure at the condensor!
>
> Take some refrigerant out

holy ---- you really DONT know what an HMC does, do you? :-) besides, when
you "take some refrigerant out" you would starve your evaporator. these
components are designed to run within certain pressure specs and if you
"take some refrigerant out" youre starving the system. starve the system
and whatever you needed to keep cold will not be cold for very long.

try again. :-)



> and run without the head
> pressure control. It's just as simple as that

lol you are a fool! its a constant dynamic load. you cannot run without
some form of pressure regulation!


>> youve given me NOTHING conclusive from a credible source.
>
> Now you're lying... and stonewalling.

i am only waiting on a credible source.


> Obviously you're trying to get
> additional specs into the challenge
> that were not part of the original
> post

i point you to my original post on this matter TO YOU.
news:11cbop8lt1q84d@corp.supernews.com :-)


> I'm on the right track

lol yeah, with your "two valves and a pipe" BUWAHAHA! :-)


> yeah no ----! refrigerant is a compound, a MIXTURE and when you add up
> all the components they are heavier than the individual components.

exactly. my first conclusive statement reads "refrigerant is a compound".
i went on further to explain it to you using mixture generically. it is
only your desperation that drives you on this, and thats fine. :-)

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com

 

"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:OiiKe.348$SR5.84@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net.. .
> You only gave an example of 'in a pinch'... there was no
> additional specification to the challenge

--------. i clarified the scenario for you and you still choked on it. :-)


> and no low-ambient condition was spec'ed.

i clearly said -30 degree ambient. shall i link it again? :-)


> I happen
> to know that without this condition, it's not even
> necessary to have a head pressure control in a system...

yeah, i ------- told you that nearly 2 weeks ago. :-)


> as I said before, these controls give the system more
> thermal bandwidth.

thats NOT what it does! it regulates head pressure distribution.


> You ----ed up, and refuse to
> acknowlege it.

lol you are one ignorant, assinine fool. clue boy, i _never_ ---- up when
it comes to refrigeration. :-)


> Kinda like you and the ozone layer?

nope. _nothing_ about ozone depletion is _proven_. its all speculation
which is why you must resort to URLs with "proudliberal" in them. you had
to hunt to find someone lacking the integrity to be honest.


> Oh, I must have missed any other time

no you didnt miss it stephen, youve simply grown to believe your own LIES.
you are a pathlogical liar.


> There was no -30 degree spec

WRONG. see news:11cbop8lt1q84d@corp.supernews.com where i CLEARLY
stated -30 degrees. :-)


> And now you're waffling on
> the parts availability

--------. nice try at smoke and mirrors, wont work. i simply stated that i
dont care what the reason in order to get back to the one basic point.
YOURE FULL OF ----. you have NO IDEA what a realistic alternative to
replacing an HMC would be. :-) play it either way stevie, with or without
parts....with or without ambient......give me a realistic alternative.

you cant. :-)

> Do we have parts,
> or not?

really doesnt matter. take your pick, you still wont be able to answer the
question. :-)


> I'll admit ignorance of HVAC if
> you'll admit ignorance of atmospheric science.

TRANSLATION --> "im a fool, nate".

its abundantly clear that youre completely ignorant when it comes to
refrigeration. when you own it, ill give you the solution.


> Why would there be two valves on the straight
> piece of pipe, if I was lying?

one to regulate what goes to the condensor, one to regulate what bypasses
the condensor.


> If the valve was
> meant to control something, all you'd need would
> be one valve, right?

you obviously dont understand the basic function of an HMC. duh. :-)


> Why two valves? If you have two valves, you
> can turn them off, then insert the regulator.

BZZT. you would still have to pull a vaccuum before releasing the
refrigerant.


>> BUWHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! the expansion valve regulates pressure going into the
>> EVAPORATOR. the HMC regulates HEAD pressure at the condensor!
>
> Take some refrigerant out

holy ---- you really DONT know what an HMC does, do you? :-) besides, when
you "take some refrigerant out" you would starve your evaporator. these
components are designed to run within certain pressure specs and if you
"take some refrigerant out" youre starving the system. starve the system
and whatever you needed to keep cold will not be cold for very long.

try again. :-)



> and run without the head
> pressure control. It's just as simple as that

lol you are a fool! its a constant dynamic load. you cannot run without
some form of pressure regulation!


>> youve given me NOTHING conclusive from a credible source.
>
> Now you're lying... and stonewalling.

i am only waiting on a credible source.


> Obviously you're trying to get
> additional specs into the challenge
> that were not part of the original
> post

i point you to my original post on this matter TO YOU.
news:11cbop8lt1q84d@corp.supernews.com :-)


> I'm on the right track

lol yeah, with your "two valves and a pipe" BUWAHAHA! :-)


> yeah no ----! refrigerant is a compound, a MIXTURE and when you add up
> all the components they are heavier than the individual components.

exactly. my first conclusive statement reads "refrigerant is a compound".
i went on further to explain it to you using mixture generically. it is
only your desperation that drives you on this, and thats fine. :-)

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com

 

"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:OiiKe.348$SR5.84@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net.. .
> You only gave an example of 'in a pinch'... there was no
> additional specification to the challenge

--------. i clarified the scenario for you and you still choked on it. :-)


> and no low-ambient condition was spec'ed.

i clearly said -30 degree ambient. shall i link it again? :-)


> I happen
> to know that without this condition, it's not even
> necessary to have a head pressure control in a system...

yeah, i ------- told you that nearly 2 weeks ago. :-)


> as I said before, these controls give the system more
> thermal bandwidth.

thats NOT what it does! it regulates head pressure distribution.


> You ----ed up, and refuse to
> acknowlege it.

lol you are one ignorant, assinine fool. clue boy, i _never_ ---- up when
it comes to refrigeration. :-)


> Kinda like you and the ozone layer?

nope. _nothing_ about ozone depletion is _proven_. its all speculation
which is why you must resort to URLs with "proudliberal" in them. you had
to hunt to find someone lacking the integrity to be honest.


> Oh, I must have missed any other time

no you didnt miss it stephen, youve simply grown to believe your own LIES.
you are a pathlogical liar.


> There was no -30 degree spec

WRONG. see news:11cbop8lt1q84d@corp.supernews.com where i CLEARLY
stated -30 degrees. :-)


> And now you're waffling on
> the parts availability

--------. nice try at smoke and mirrors, wont work. i simply stated that i
dont care what the reason in order to get back to the one basic point.
YOURE FULL OF ----. you have NO IDEA what a realistic alternative to
replacing an HMC would be. :-) play it either way stevie, with or without
parts....with or without ambient......give me a realistic alternative.

you cant. :-)

> Do we have parts,
> or not?

really doesnt matter. take your pick, you still wont be able to answer the
question. :-)


> I'll admit ignorance of HVAC if
> you'll admit ignorance of atmospheric science.

TRANSLATION --> "im a fool, nate".

its abundantly clear that youre completely ignorant when it comes to
refrigeration. when you own it, ill give you the solution.


> Why would there be two valves on the straight
> piece of pipe, if I was lying?

one to regulate what goes to the condensor, one to regulate what bypasses
the condensor.


> If the valve was
> meant to control something, all you'd need would
> be one valve, right?

you obviously dont understand the basic function of an HMC. duh. :-)


> Why two valves? If you have two valves, you
> can turn them off, then insert the regulator.

BZZT. you would still have to pull a vaccuum before releasing the
refrigerant.


>> BUWHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! the expansion valve regulates pressure going into the
>> EVAPORATOR. the HMC regulates HEAD pressure at the condensor!
>
> Take some refrigerant out

holy ---- you really DONT know what an HMC does, do you? :-) besides, when
you "take some refrigerant out" you would starve your evaporator. these
components are designed to run within certain pressure specs and if you
"take some refrigerant out" youre starving the system. starve the system
and whatever you needed to keep cold will not be cold for very long.

try again. :-)



> and run without the head
> pressure control. It's just as simple as that

lol you are a fool! its a constant dynamic load. you cannot run without
some form of pressure regulation!


>> youve given me NOTHING conclusive from a credible source.
>
> Now you're lying... and stonewalling.

i am only waiting on a credible source.


> Obviously you're trying to get
> additional specs into the challenge
> that were not part of the original
> post

i point you to my original post on this matter TO YOU.
news:11cbop8lt1q84d@corp.supernews.com :-)


> I'm on the right track

lol yeah, with your "two valves and a pipe" BUWAHAHA! :-)


> yeah no ----! refrigerant is a compound, a MIXTURE and when you add up
> all the components they are heavier than the individual components.

exactly. my first conclusive statement reads "refrigerant is a compound".
i went on further to explain it to you using mixture generically. it is
only your desperation that drives you on this, and thats fine. :-)

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com