134a Refrigerant
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> I let folks be as girly as they want.
its the only way to feel youre amongst peers. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
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> I let folks be as girly as they want.
its the only way to feel youre amongst peers. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
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>
>>>and its still WRONG. :-)
>>Yes it's wrong
> thank you. this was my only point with your usage.
>>but it is also reality.
> no doubt. its still however, _wrong_.
>>Just like when I showed you dozens of links to HVAC contractors and other
>>"insiders" referring to "freon refrigeration".
> they are wrong as well.
I thought you said they didn't exist, as in "Nobody in the Industry"
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:eqaFe.1845$Eo3.733@trnddc08...
>
>>>and its still WRONG. :-)
>>Yes it's wrong
> thank you. this was my only point with your usage.
>>but it is also reality.
> no doubt. its still however, _wrong_.
>>Just like when I showed you dozens of links to HVAC contractors and other
>>"insiders" referring to "freon refrigeration".
> they are wrong as well.
I thought you said they didn't exist, as in "Nobody in the Industry"
#3783
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:eqaFe.1845$Eo3.733@trnddc08...
>
>>>and its still WRONG. :-)
>>Yes it's wrong
> thank you. this was my only point with your usage.
>>but it is also reality.
> no doubt. its still however, _wrong_.
>>Just like when I showed you dozens of links to HVAC contractors and other
>>"insiders" referring to "freon refrigeration".
> they are wrong as well.
I thought you said they didn't exist, as in "Nobody in the Industry"
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:eqaFe.1845$Eo3.733@trnddc08...
>
>>>and its still WRONG. :-)
>>Yes it's wrong
> thank you. this was my only point with your usage.
>>but it is also reality.
> no doubt. its still however, _wrong_.
>>Just like when I showed you dozens of links to HVAC contractors and other
>>"insiders" referring to "freon refrigeration".
> they are wrong as well.
I thought you said they didn't exist, as in "Nobody in the Industry"
#3784
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:eqaFe.1845$Eo3.733@trnddc08...
>
>>>and its still WRONG. :-)
>>Yes it's wrong
> thank you. this was my only point with your usage.
>>but it is also reality.
> no doubt. its still however, _wrong_.
>>Just like when I showed you dozens of links to HVAC contractors and other
>>"insiders" referring to "freon refrigeration".
> they are wrong as well.
I thought you said they didn't exist, as in "Nobody in the Industry"
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:eqaFe.1845$Eo3.733@trnddc08...
>
>>>and its still WRONG. :-)
>>Yes it's wrong
> thank you. this was my only point with your usage.
>>but it is also reality.
> no doubt. its still however, _wrong_.
>>Just like when I showed you dozens of links to HVAC contractors and other
>>"insiders" referring to "freon refrigeration".
> they are wrong as well.
I thought you said they didn't exist, as in "Nobody in the Industry"
#3785
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:eqaFe.1845$Eo3.733@trnddc08...
>
>>>and its still WRONG. :-)
>>Yes it's wrong
> thank you. this was my only point with your usage.
>>but it is also reality.
> no doubt. its still however, _wrong_.
>>Just like when I showed you dozens of links to HVAC contractors and other
>>"insiders" referring to "freon refrigeration".
> they are wrong as well.
I thought you said they didn't exist, as in "Nobody in the Industry"
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:eqaFe.1845$Eo3.733@trnddc08...
>
>>>and its still WRONG. :-)
>>Yes it's wrong
> thank you. this was my only point with your usage.
>>but it is also reality.
> no doubt. its still however, _wrong_.
>>Just like when I showed you dozens of links to HVAC contractors and other
>>"insiders" referring to "freon refrigeration".
> they are wrong as well.
I thought you said they didn't exist, as in "Nobody in the Industry"
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:lPaFe.5689$dM3.5367@trnddc04...
>
>>I doubt they are wrong, but I question your interpretation of what they
>>actually say.
> aw c'mon, the links _clearly_ stated that sunlight destroyed the chlorine.
>>>and where is it going....the ozone? :-)
>>
>>Perhaps some of it,
>
> so your statement is that swimming pools could account for a percentage of
> ozone depletion? that would be a logical deduction of your statement...
The part you snipped: "the vast majority gets washed out as HCl and HOCl."
The way you like to take things out of context and spin them you must be
a liberal.
>
>>>so tell me jeff, why hundreds of links state that chlorine is destroyed,
>>>and not one ive read says its the hypochlorous acid?
>>Because poolbois are too stupid to understand chemistry?
>
> drop the elitist -------- already. i can assure you that youre no better
> than anybody else in this newsgroup.
I am not being elitist, I simply understand chemistry and physics far better
than you. This is not a value statement of better or worse, or good or bad.
I simply had educational opertunities that you may not have had.
>>Here's a site: http://www.deh.enr.state.nc.us/ehs/chem.htm
> wheres the relevance? i see no direct reference to our points of
> difference.
>
Ok, I'll weed it out for you. From the site:
http://www.deh.enr.state.nc.us/ehs/chem.htm
"Chlorine reacts with water to form Hypochlorous acid (HOC1). The
reaction is different for each form of chlorine but hypochlorous acid is
produced by each of those reactions and is the form in which chlorine
serves best as a disinfectant."
AND
Hypochlorous acid is a highly unstable molecule which dissipates rapidly
in the presence of sunlight. This results in considerable loss of free
chlorine form pools exposed to sunlight.
Again please note they are talking about "dissipation" and "loss", not
"destruction". Also, the key term is "free chlorine". The word free in
this case is not a superfluous modifier, it is a key part of the term.
--
jeff
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:lPaFe.5689$dM3.5367@trnddc04...
>
>>I doubt they are wrong, but I question your interpretation of what they
>>actually say.
> aw c'mon, the links _clearly_ stated that sunlight destroyed the chlorine.
>>>and where is it going....the ozone? :-)
>>
>>Perhaps some of it,
>
> so your statement is that swimming pools could account for a percentage of
> ozone depletion? that would be a logical deduction of your statement...
The part you snipped: "the vast majority gets washed out as HCl and HOCl."
The way you like to take things out of context and spin them you must be
a liberal.
>
>>>so tell me jeff, why hundreds of links state that chlorine is destroyed,
>>>and not one ive read says its the hypochlorous acid?
>>Because poolbois are too stupid to understand chemistry?
>
> drop the elitist -------- already. i can assure you that youre no better
> than anybody else in this newsgroup.
I am not being elitist, I simply understand chemistry and physics far better
than you. This is not a value statement of better or worse, or good or bad.
I simply had educational opertunities that you may not have had.
>>Here's a site: http://www.deh.enr.state.nc.us/ehs/chem.htm
> wheres the relevance? i see no direct reference to our points of
> difference.
>
Ok, I'll weed it out for you. From the site:
http://www.deh.enr.state.nc.us/ehs/chem.htm
"Chlorine reacts with water to form Hypochlorous acid (HOC1). The
reaction is different for each form of chlorine but hypochlorous acid is
produced by each of those reactions and is the form in which chlorine
serves best as a disinfectant."
AND
Hypochlorous acid is a highly unstable molecule which dissipates rapidly
in the presence of sunlight. This results in considerable loss of free
chlorine form pools exposed to sunlight.
Again please note they are talking about "dissipation" and "loss", not
"destruction". Also, the key term is "free chlorine". The word free in
this case is not a superfluous modifier, it is a key part of the term.
--
jeff
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:lPaFe.5689$dM3.5367@trnddc04...
>
>>I doubt they are wrong, but I question your interpretation of what they
>>actually say.
> aw c'mon, the links _clearly_ stated that sunlight destroyed the chlorine.
>>>and where is it going....the ozone? :-)
>>
>>Perhaps some of it,
>
> so your statement is that swimming pools could account for a percentage of
> ozone depletion? that would be a logical deduction of your statement...
The part you snipped: "the vast majority gets washed out as HCl and HOCl."
The way you like to take things out of context and spin them you must be
a liberal.
>
>>>so tell me jeff, why hundreds of links state that chlorine is destroyed,
>>>and not one ive read says its the hypochlorous acid?
>>Because poolbois are too stupid to understand chemistry?
>
> drop the elitist -------- already. i can assure you that youre no better
> than anybody else in this newsgroup.
I am not being elitist, I simply understand chemistry and physics far better
than you. This is not a value statement of better or worse, or good or bad.
I simply had educational opertunities that you may not have had.
>>Here's a site: http://www.deh.enr.state.nc.us/ehs/chem.htm
> wheres the relevance? i see no direct reference to our points of
> difference.
>
Ok, I'll weed it out for you. From the site:
http://www.deh.enr.state.nc.us/ehs/chem.htm
"Chlorine reacts with water to form Hypochlorous acid (HOC1). The
reaction is different for each form of chlorine but hypochlorous acid is
produced by each of those reactions and is the form in which chlorine
serves best as a disinfectant."
AND
Hypochlorous acid is a highly unstable molecule which dissipates rapidly
in the presence of sunlight. This results in considerable loss of free
chlorine form pools exposed to sunlight.
Again please note they are talking about "dissipation" and "loss", not
"destruction". Also, the key term is "free chlorine". The word free in
this case is not a superfluous modifier, it is a key part of the term.
--
jeff
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:lPaFe.5689$dM3.5367@trnddc04...
>
>>I doubt they are wrong, but I question your interpretation of what they
>>actually say.
> aw c'mon, the links _clearly_ stated that sunlight destroyed the chlorine.
>>>and where is it going....the ozone? :-)
>>
>>Perhaps some of it,
>
> so your statement is that swimming pools could account for a percentage of
> ozone depletion? that would be a logical deduction of your statement...
The part you snipped: "the vast majority gets washed out as HCl and HOCl."
The way you like to take things out of context and spin them you must be
a liberal.
>
>>>so tell me jeff, why hundreds of links state that chlorine is destroyed,
>>>and not one ive read says its the hypochlorous acid?
>>Because poolbois are too stupid to understand chemistry?
>
> drop the elitist -------- already. i can assure you that youre no better
> than anybody else in this newsgroup.
I am not being elitist, I simply understand chemistry and physics far better
than you. This is not a value statement of better or worse, or good or bad.
I simply had educational opertunities that you may not have had.
>>Here's a site: http://www.deh.enr.state.nc.us/ehs/chem.htm
> wheres the relevance? i see no direct reference to our points of
> difference.
>
Ok, I'll weed it out for you. From the site:
http://www.deh.enr.state.nc.us/ehs/chem.htm
"Chlorine reacts with water to form Hypochlorous acid (HOC1). The
reaction is different for each form of chlorine but hypochlorous acid is
produced by each of those reactions and is the form in which chlorine
serves best as a disinfectant."
AND
Hypochlorous acid is a highly unstable molecule which dissipates rapidly
in the presence of sunlight. This results in considerable loss of free
chlorine form pools exposed to sunlight.
Again please note they are talking about "dissipation" and "loss", not
"destruction". Also, the key term is "free chlorine". The word free in
this case is not a superfluous modifier, it is a key part of the term.
--
jeff
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:lPaFe.5689$dM3.5367@trnddc04...
>
>>I doubt they are wrong, but I question your interpretation of what they
>>actually say.
> aw c'mon, the links _clearly_ stated that sunlight destroyed the chlorine.
>>>and where is it going....the ozone? :-)
>>
>>Perhaps some of it,
>
> so your statement is that swimming pools could account for a percentage of
> ozone depletion? that would be a logical deduction of your statement...
The part you snipped: "the vast majority gets washed out as HCl and HOCl."
The way you like to take things out of context and spin them you must be
a liberal.
>
>>>so tell me jeff, why hundreds of links state that chlorine is destroyed,
>>>and not one ive read says its the hypochlorous acid?
>>Because poolbois are too stupid to understand chemistry?
>
> drop the elitist -------- already. i can assure you that youre no better
> than anybody else in this newsgroup.
I am not being elitist, I simply understand chemistry and physics far better
than you. This is not a value statement of better or worse, or good or bad.
I simply had educational opertunities that you may not have had.
>>Here's a site: http://www.deh.enr.state.nc.us/ehs/chem.htm
> wheres the relevance? i see no direct reference to our points of
> difference.
>
Ok, I'll weed it out for you. From the site:
http://www.deh.enr.state.nc.us/ehs/chem.htm
"Chlorine reacts with water to form Hypochlorous acid (HOC1). The
reaction is different for each form of chlorine but hypochlorous acid is
produced by each of those reactions and is the form in which chlorine
serves best as a disinfectant."
AND
Hypochlorous acid is a highly unstable molecule which dissipates rapidly
in the presence of sunlight. This results in considerable loss of free
chlorine form pools exposed to sunlight.
Again please note they are talking about "dissipation" and "loss", not
"destruction". Also, the key term is "free chlorine". The word free in
this case is not a superfluous modifier, it is a key part of the term.
--
jeff
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:lPaFe.5689$dM3.5367@trnddc04...
>
>>I doubt they are wrong, but I question your interpretation of what they
>>actually say.
> aw c'mon, the links _clearly_ stated that sunlight destroyed the chlorine.
>>>and where is it going....the ozone? :-)
>>
>>Perhaps some of it,
>
> so your statement is that swimming pools could account for a percentage of
> ozone depletion? that would be a logical deduction of your statement...
The part you snipped: "the vast majority gets washed out as HCl and HOCl."
The way you like to take things out of context and spin them you must be
a liberal.
>
>>>so tell me jeff, why hundreds of links state that chlorine is destroyed,
>>>and not one ive read says its the hypochlorous acid?
>>Because poolbois are too stupid to understand chemistry?
>
> drop the elitist -------- already. i can assure you that youre no better
> than anybody else in this newsgroup.
I am not being elitist, I simply understand chemistry and physics far better
than you. This is not a value statement of better or worse, or good or bad.
I simply had educational opertunities that you may not have had.
>>Here's a site: http://www.deh.enr.state.nc.us/ehs/chem.htm
> wheres the relevance? i see no direct reference to our points of
> difference.
>
Ok, I'll weed it out for you. From the site:
http://www.deh.enr.state.nc.us/ehs/chem.htm
"Chlorine reacts with water to form Hypochlorous acid (HOC1). The
reaction is different for each form of chlorine but hypochlorous acid is
produced by each of those reactions and is the form in which chlorine
serves best as a disinfectant."
AND
Hypochlorous acid is a highly unstable molecule which dissipates rapidly
in the presence of sunlight. This results in considerable loss of free
chlorine form pools exposed to sunlight.
Again please note they are talking about "dissipation" and "loss", not
"destruction". Also, the key term is "free chlorine". The word free in
this case is not a superfluous modifier, it is a key part of the term.
--
jeff
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:lPaFe.5689$dM3.5367@trnddc04...
>
>>I doubt they are wrong, but I question your interpretation of what they
>>actually say.
> aw c'mon, the links _clearly_ stated that sunlight destroyed the chlorine.
>>>and where is it going....the ozone? :-)
>>
>>Perhaps some of it,
>
> so your statement is that swimming pools could account for a percentage of
> ozone depletion? that would be a logical deduction of your statement...
The part you snipped: "the vast majority gets washed out as HCl and HOCl."
The way you like to take things out of context and spin them you must be
a liberal.
>
>>>so tell me jeff, why hundreds of links state that chlorine is destroyed,
>>>and not one ive read says its the hypochlorous acid?
>>Because poolbois are too stupid to understand chemistry?
>
> drop the elitist -------- already. i can assure you that youre no better
> than anybody else in this newsgroup.
I am not being elitist, I simply understand chemistry and physics far better
than you. This is not a value statement of better or worse, or good or bad.
I simply had educational opertunities that you may not have had.
>>Here's a site: http://www.deh.enr.state.nc.us/ehs/chem.htm
> wheres the relevance? i see no direct reference to our points of
> difference.
>
Ok, I'll weed it out for you. From the site:
http://www.deh.enr.state.nc.us/ehs/chem.htm
"Chlorine reacts with water to form Hypochlorous acid (HOC1). The
reaction is different for each form of chlorine but hypochlorous acid is
produced by each of those reactions and is the form in which chlorine
serves best as a disinfectant."
AND
Hypochlorous acid is a highly unstable molecule which dissipates rapidly
in the presence of sunlight. This results in considerable loss of free
chlorine form pools exposed to sunlight.
Again please note they are talking about "dissipation" and "loss", not
"destruction". Also, the key term is "free chlorine". The word free in
this case is not a superfluous modifier, it is a key part of the term.
--
jeff
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:lPaFe.5689$dM3.5367@trnddc04...
>
>>I doubt they are wrong, but I question your interpretation of what they
>>actually say.
> aw c'mon, the links _clearly_ stated that sunlight destroyed the chlorine.
>>>and where is it going....the ozone? :-)
>>
>>Perhaps some of it,
>
> so your statement is that swimming pools could account for a percentage of
> ozone depletion? that would be a logical deduction of your statement...
The part you snipped: "the vast majority gets washed out as HCl and HOCl."
The way you like to take things out of context and spin them you must be
a liberal.
>
>>>so tell me jeff, why hundreds of links state that chlorine is destroyed,
>>>and not one ive read says its the hypochlorous acid?
>>Because poolbois are too stupid to understand chemistry?
>
> drop the elitist -------- already. i can assure you that youre no better
> than anybody else in this newsgroup.
I am not being elitist, I simply understand chemistry and physics far better
than you. This is not a value statement of better or worse, or good or bad.
I simply had educational opertunities that you may not have had.
>>Here's a site: http://www.deh.enr.state.nc.us/ehs/chem.htm
> wheres the relevance? i see no direct reference to our points of
> difference.
>
Ok, I'll weed it out for you. From the site:
http://www.deh.enr.state.nc.us/ehs/chem.htm
"Chlorine reacts with water to form Hypochlorous acid (HOC1). The
reaction is different for each form of chlorine but hypochlorous acid is
produced by each of those reactions and is the form in which chlorine
serves best as a disinfectant."
AND
Hypochlorous acid is a highly unstable molecule which dissipates rapidly
in the presence of sunlight. This results in considerable loss of free
chlorine form pools exposed to sunlight.
Again please note they are talking about "dissipation" and "loss", not
"destruction". Also, the key term is "free chlorine". The word free in
this case is not a superfluous modifier, it is a key part of the term.
--
jeff
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:xPpFe.6120$vY2.3826@trnddc09...
> I thought you said they didn't exist, as in "Nobody in the Industry"
nobody who knows anything about the industry anyway. its simple really.
call your local refrigeration supplier and ask them. the only people who
use "freon" to describe refrigerant are people who know nothing about
refrigeration.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
news:xPpFe.6120$vY2.3826@trnddc09...
> I thought you said they didn't exist, as in "Nobody in the Industry"
nobody who knows anything about the industry anyway. its simple really.
call your local refrigeration supplier and ask them. the only people who
use "freon" to describe refrigerant are people who know nothing about
refrigeration.
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com