Nathan W. Collier wrote:
<..>
>he _defined_ freon as a compound. to quote: "freon is a
> compound".
>
> mistaken? dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=freon
> defines it as:
>
> "A trademark used for a variety of nonflammable gaseous or liquid
> fluorinated hydrocarbons employed primarily as working fluids in
> refrigeration and air conditioning and as aerosol propellants."
>
> it is a trademark used. it is not a compound, a mixture, or anything else.
> im right, youre wrong, now spin and lie like a good liberal.

No Nate, you were simply being a pedantic little ***** attempting to
deflect the core of the discussion with a bit of minutia. You had made
the statement that CFCs were mixtures. Mixtures and compounds are not
the same thing. I am aware that Freon is a registered trademark, but it
has become so generic that to the common man if you were to use the word
they instantly know what you are talking about. An excellent example of
this is to search E-Bay (tm) for Freon. Hundreds of hits for Freon-12
and Freon Sniffers, and Freon conversion kits. As an "Industry Insider"
you, of course, are daily exposed machinations of DuPont's legal
department is trying to reassert some level of branding.
http://www.answers.com/topic/genericized-trademark
As a final note, when I skin a knuckle working on my jeep, I put a
bandaid on it.

--
jeff

 

Nathan W. Collier wrote:
<..>
>he _defined_ freon as a compound. to quote: "freon is a
> compound".
>
> mistaken? dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=freon
> defines it as:
>
> "A trademark used for a variety of nonflammable gaseous or liquid
> fluorinated hydrocarbons employed primarily as working fluids in
> refrigeration and air conditioning and as aerosol propellants."
>
> it is a trademark used. it is not a compound, a mixture, or anything else.
> im right, youre wrong, now spin and lie like a good liberal.

No Nate, you were simply being a pedantic little ***** attempting to
deflect the core of the discussion with a bit of minutia. You had made
the statement that CFCs were mixtures. Mixtures and compounds are not
the same thing. I am aware that Freon is a registered trademark, but it
has become so generic that to the common man if you were to use the word
they instantly know what you are talking about. An excellent example of
this is to search E-Bay (tm) for Freon. Hundreds of hits for Freon-12
and Freon Sniffers, and Freon conversion kits. As an "Industry Insider"
you, of course, are daily exposed machinations of DuPont's legal
department is trying to reassert some level of branding.
http://www.answers.com/topic/genericized-trademark
As a final note, when I skin a knuckle working on my jeep, I put a
bandaid on it.

--
jeff

 

Nathan W. Collier wrote:
<..>
>he _defined_ freon as a compound. to quote: "freon is a
> compound".
>
> mistaken? dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=freon
> defines it as:
>
> "A trademark used for a variety of nonflammable gaseous or liquid
> fluorinated hydrocarbons employed primarily as working fluids in
> refrigeration and air conditioning and as aerosol propellants."
>
> it is a trademark used. it is not a compound, a mixture, or anything else.
> im right, youre wrong, now spin and lie like a good liberal.

No Nate, you were simply being a pedantic little ***** attempting to
deflect the core of the discussion with a bit of minutia. You had made
the statement that CFCs were mixtures. Mixtures and compounds are not
the same thing. I am aware that Freon is a registered trademark, but it
has become so generic that to the common man if you were to use the word
they instantly know what you are talking about. An excellent example of
this is to search E-Bay (tm) for Freon. Hundreds of hits for Freon-12
and Freon Sniffers, and Freon conversion kits. As an "Industry Insider"
you, of course, are daily exposed machinations of DuPont's legal
department is trying to reassert some level of branding.
http://www.answers.com/topic/genericized-trademark
As a final note, when I skin a knuckle working on my jeep, I put a
bandaid on it.

--
jeff

 

The operative word in my question was "YOU" and you failed again.
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Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> It would be much easier to let others tell the tale...
>
> http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/we...mical+compound
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_compound
>
> Particularly edifying are the following, from Wiki:
>
> <>
> A chemical compound is a chemical substance formed from two or more elements, with a fixed ratio determining the composition. For example, dihydrogen monoxide (water, H2O) is a compound composed of two hydrogen atoms for every oxygen atom.
>
> In general, this fixed ratio must be fixed due to some sort of physical property, rather than an arbitrary man-made selection. This is why materials such as brass, the superconductor YBCO, the semiconductor aluminium gallium arsenide, or chocolate are considered mixtures or alloys rather than compounds.
> </>
> __
> Steve
> .

 

The operative word in my question was "YOU" and you failed again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> It would be much easier to let others tell the tale...
>
> http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/we...mical+compound
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_compound
>
> Particularly edifying are the following, from Wiki:
>
> <>
> A chemical compound is a chemical substance formed from two or more elements, with a fixed ratio determining the composition. For example, dihydrogen monoxide (water, H2O) is a compound composed of two hydrogen atoms for every oxygen atom.
>
> In general, this fixed ratio must be fixed due to some sort of physical property, rather than an arbitrary man-made selection. This is why materials such as brass, the superconductor YBCO, the semiconductor aluminium gallium arsenide, or chocolate are considered mixtures or alloys rather than compounds.
> </>
> __
> Steve
> .

 

The operative word in my question was "YOU" and you failed again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> It would be much easier to let others tell the tale...
>
> http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/we...mical+compound
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_compound
>
> Particularly edifying are the following, from Wiki:
>
> <>
> A chemical compound is a chemical substance formed from two or more elements, with a fixed ratio determining the composition. For example, dihydrogen monoxide (water, H2O) is a compound composed of two hydrogen atoms for every oxygen atom.
>
> In general, this fixed ratio must be fixed due to some sort of physical property, rather than an arbitrary man-made selection. This is why materials such as brass, the superconductor YBCO, the semiconductor aluminium gallium arsenide, or chocolate are considered mixtures or alloys rather than compounds.
> </>
> __
> Steve
> .

 

The operative word in my question was "YOU" and you failed again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> It would be much easier to let others tell the tale...
>
> http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/we...mical+compound
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_compound
>
> Particularly edifying are the following, from Wiki:
>
> <>
> A chemical compound is a chemical substance formed from two or more elements, with a fixed ratio determining the composition. For example, dihydrogen monoxide (water, H2O) is a compound composed of two hydrogen atoms for every oxygen atom.
>
> In general, this fixed ratio must be fixed due to some sort of physical property, rather than an arbitrary man-made selection. This is why materials such as brass, the superconductor YBCO, the semiconductor aluminium gallium arsenide, or chocolate are considered mixtures or alloys rather than compounds.
> </>
> __
> Steve
> .

 

Point is I have "3.14" memorized, you obviously couldn't remember,
otherwise you wouldn't have written: "3..."
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Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> Another howler! It *damn* sure doesn't equal Pi...
> Pi is one of the *irrational* numbers... that means,
> for you folk that haven't had advanced math as
> Bill and I have, that it *can't* be represented as
> a ratio of integers. 22/7 is only good out to three
> digits... if you can rattle off 3.1415927 like a phone
> number, you don't need that 22/7 thing anyway.
> __
> Steve
> .

 

Point is I have "3.14" memorized, you obviously couldn't remember,
otherwise you wouldn't have written: "3..."
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> Another howler! It *damn* sure doesn't equal Pi...
> Pi is one of the *irrational* numbers... that means,
> for you folk that haven't had advanced math as
> Bill and I have, that it *can't* be represented as
> a ratio of integers. 22/7 is only good out to three
> digits... if you can rattle off 3.1415927 like a phone
> number, you don't need that 22/7 thing anyway.
> __
> Steve
> .

 

Point is I have "3.14" memorized, you obviously couldn't remember,
otherwise you wouldn't have written: "3..."
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> Another howler! It *damn* sure doesn't equal Pi...
> Pi is one of the *irrational* numbers... that means,
> for you folk that haven't had advanced math as
> Bill and I have, that it *can't* be represented as
> a ratio of integers. 22/7 is only good out to three
> digits... if you can rattle off 3.1415927 like a phone
> number, you don't need that 22/7 thing anyway.
> __
> Steve
> .