134a Refrigerant
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:ysmdnV5R4qpzMU7fRVn-vA@comcast.com...
> 1 + 1 = 2. 2 is heavier than 1.
>
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Z5GAe.506$Bo3.402@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
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> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:lOadnaNtQYvNbU_fRVn-hA@comcast.com...
> > Nathan, quick question...if you mix two compounds, the sum of the two
> > compounds by definition would be heavier, but would the mixture be heavier
> > per unit volume?
>
> Heavier than the components summed individually?
> Perhaps you can tell us where the extra weight
> comes from!
2 is not heavier than 1+1... that's the point.
Original post:
>yeah no ----! refrigerant is a compound, a
>MIXTURE and when you add up all
>the components they are heavier than
>the individual components.
For one thing, Freon is not a 'mixture'... that's
the wrong term. Freon is a chemical compound...
and the combined components are not heavier
than the original components. Basic chemistry.
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:ysmdnV5R4qpzMU7fRVn-vA@comcast.com...
> 1 + 1 = 2. 2 is heavier than 1.
>
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Z5GAe.506$Bo3.402@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:lOadnaNtQYvNbU_fRVn-hA@comcast.com...
> > Nathan, quick question...if you mix two compounds, the sum of the two
> > compounds by definition would be heavier, but would the mixture be heavier
> > per unit volume?
>
> Heavier than the components summed individually?
> Perhaps you can tell us where the extra weight
> comes from!
2 is not heavier than 1+1... that's the point.
Original post:
>yeah no ----! refrigerant is a compound, a
>MIXTURE and when you add up all
>the components they are heavier than
>the individual components.
For one thing, Freon is not a 'mixture'... that's
the wrong term. Freon is a chemical compound...
and the combined components are not heavier
than the original components. Basic chemistry.
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Steve
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#2953
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:ysmdnV5R4qpzMU7fRVn-vA@comcast.com...
> 1 + 1 = 2. 2 is heavier than 1.
>
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Z5GAe.506$Bo3.402@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:lOadnaNtQYvNbU_fRVn-hA@comcast.com...
> > Nathan, quick question...if you mix two compounds, the sum of the two
> > compounds by definition would be heavier, but would the mixture be heavier
> > per unit volume?
>
> Heavier than the components summed individually?
> Perhaps you can tell us where the extra weight
> comes from!
2 is not heavier than 1+1... that's the point.
Original post:
>yeah no ----! refrigerant is a compound, a
>MIXTURE and when you add up all
>the components they are heavier than
>the individual components.
For one thing, Freon is not a 'mixture'... that's
the wrong term. Freon is a chemical compound...
and the combined components are not heavier
than the original components. Basic chemistry.
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Steve
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11d6k2pdrl5ks8d@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:d1GAe.504$Bo3.343@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
> >> yeah no ----! refrigerant is a compound, a MIXTURE and when you add up
> >> all
> >> the components they are heavier than the individual components.
>
> > STOP!!! STOP NOW!!!! I'm gonna **** all over myself!
>
> TRANSLATION --> "youre right"
No really... too funny!
> > Re-read your opener above... then hide for a few months.
>
> lol...this coming from someone who cannot define "mix" LOL! :-)
Read my previous post re mixtures and compounds...
you've a lot to learn, grashopper!
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11d6k2pdrl5ks8d@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:d1GAe.504$Bo3.343@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
> >> yeah no ----! refrigerant is a compound, a MIXTURE and when you add up
> >> all
> >> the components they are heavier than the individual components.
>
> > STOP!!! STOP NOW!!!! I'm gonna **** all over myself!
>
> TRANSLATION --> "youre right"
No really... too funny!
> > Re-read your opener above... then hide for a few months.
>
> lol...this coming from someone who cannot define "mix" LOL! :-)
Read my previous post re mixtures and compounds...
you've a lot to learn, grashopper!
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Steve
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11d6k2pdrl5ks8d@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:d1GAe.504$Bo3.343@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
> >> yeah no ----! refrigerant is a compound, a MIXTURE and when you add up
> >> all
> >> the components they are heavier than the individual components.
>
> > STOP!!! STOP NOW!!!! I'm gonna **** all over myself!
>
> TRANSLATION --> "youre right"
No really... too funny!
> > Re-read your opener above... then hide for a few months.
>
> lol...this coming from someone who cannot define "mix" LOL! :-)
Read my previous post re mixtures and compounds...
you've a lot to learn, grashopper!
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Steve
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#2957
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11d6k2pdrl5ks8d@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:d1GAe.504$Bo3.343@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
> >> yeah no ----! refrigerant is a compound, a MIXTURE and when you add up
> >> all
> >> the components they are heavier than the individual components.
>
> > STOP!!! STOP NOW!!!! I'm gonna **** all over myself!
>
> TRANSLATION --> "youre right"
No really... too funny!
> > Re-read your opener above... then hide for a few months.
>
> lol...this coming from someone who cannot define "mix" LOL! :-)
Read my previous post re mixtures and compounds...
you've a lot to learn, grashopper!
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Steve
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#2958
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11d6jv659dtht42@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:RVFAe.501$Bo3.400@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
>>> > You *still* haven't attacked
> >>> the substance of my statement.
> >> but i did. i told you that your statement was WRONG.
>
> > Pretty lame stuff... got anything better?
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i have no valid response" :-)
No, you don't have to translate... your
---- is weak.
> > Refrigeration not part of HVAC?
>
> nope. thats what you get for asking your sisters husbands brother.
How about Google?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&h...&q=define:HVAC
>
> > You claim that
> > your use of the TLA 'HMC' in a sentence was
> > meant to imply *nothing at all*
>
> exactly. since you were claiming to know so much about the hvac industry i
> threw out an industry term to watch you choke on it.
Well, describe how I 'choked'... that is, *after* you
gave the *brand name* definition for 'HMC'.
>
> .....and it was a pleasure. :-)
>
>
> > Go back and read about Brer'
> > Rabbit
>
> nope. my usage of tar-baby is nothing more than to reflect you as a
> worthless stool.
Then why are you all covered in tar, with
a goofy grin on your face? Use a literary
device, expect the entire package used back.
Just like your 'brand name' faux pas...
> > So Freon(tm) is not a compound, but HeadMaster(tm)
> > is not a brand? How your head spins!
>
> TRANSLATION --> "red herring". i never said that an HMC was or was not a
> brand or anything else. i just threw out the term knowing you would choke
> on it.
TRANSLATION--> "I'd better back away from that one!"
Actually, I don't give a ---- *what* you think you said
about any HMC... it's a brand name, and Freon's
a compound, and you're stuck with it!
I actually gave a pretty good explanation of how it
could be used... without asking anyone. Then you
didn't reply in kind... because you didn't dare.
> > I made educated guesses without using
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i asked my sisters husbands brother"
I asked nobody... and you can't prove otherwise.
I must have come pretty close, since you won't
get very close to discussing it.
> > evidently I got pretty close
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i missed it by a mile" :
Describe it for us! You've been avoiding it!
I *gave* you the explanation from the Google
results... or are you saying that was wrong too?
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Steve
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#2959
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11d6jv659dtht42@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:RVFAe.501$Bo3.400@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
>>> > You *still* haven't attacked
> >>> the substance of my statement.
> >> but i did. i told you that your statement was WRONG.
>
> > Pretty lame stuff... got anything better?
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i have no valid response" :-)
No, you don't have to translate... your
---- is weak.
> > Refrigeration not part of HVAC?
>
> nope. thats what you get for asking your sisters husbands brother.
How about Google?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&h...&q=define:HVAC
>
> > You claim that
> > your use of the TLA 'HMC' in a sentence was
> > meant to imply *nothing at all*
>
> exactly. since you were claiming to know so much about the hvac industry i
> threw out an industry term to watch you choke on it.
Well, describe how I 'choked'... that is, *after* you
gave the *brand name* definition for 'HMC'.
>
> .....and it was a pleasure. :-)
>
>
> > Go back and read about Brer'
> > Rabbit
>
> nope. my usage of tar-baby is nothing more than to reflect you as a
> worthless stool.
Then why are you all covered in tar, with
a goofy grin on your face? Use a literary
device, expect the entire package used back.
Just like your 'brand name' faux pas...
> > So Freon(tm) is not a compound, but HeadMaster(tm)
> > is not a brand? How your head spins!
>
> TRANSLATION --> "red herring". i never said that an HMC was or was not a
> brand or anything else. i just threw out the term knowing you would choke
> on it.
TRANSLATION--> "I'd better back away from that one!"
Actually, I don't give a ---- *what* you think you said
about any HMC... it's a brand name, and Freon's
a compound, and you're stuck with it!
I actually gave a pretty good explanation of how it
could be used... without asking anyone. Then you
didn't reply in kind... because you didn't dare.
> > I made educated guesses without using
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i asked my sisters husbands brother"
I asked nobody... and you can't prove otherwise.
I must have come pretty close, since you won't
get very close to discussing it.
> > evidently I got pretty close
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i missed it by a mile" :
Describe it for us! You've been avoiding it!
I *gave* you the explanation from the Google
results... or are you saying that was wrong too?
__
Steve
..
#2960
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11d6jv659dtht42@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:RVFAe.501$Bo3.400@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
>>> > You *still* haven't attacked
> >>> the substance of my statement.
> >> but i did. i told you that your statement was WRONG.
>
> > Pretty lame stuff... got anything better?
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i have no valid response" :-)
No, you don't have to translate... your
---- is weak.
> > Refrigeration not part of HVAC?
>
> nope. thats what you get for asking your sisters husbands brother.
How about Google?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&h...&q=define:HVAC
>
> > You claim that
> > your use of the TLA 'HMC' in a sentence was
> > meant to imply *nothing at all*
>
> exactly. since you were claiming to know so much about the hvac industry i
> threw out an industry term to watch you choke on it.
Well, describe how I 'choked'... that is, *after* you
gave the *brand name* definition for 'HMC'.
>
> .....and it was a pleasure. :-)
>
>
> > Go back and read about Brer'
> > Rabbit
>
> nope. my usage of tar-baby is nothing more than to reflect you as a
> worthless stool.
Then why are you all covered in tar, with
a goofy grin on your face? Use a literary
device, expect the entire package used back.
Just like your 'brand name' faux pas...
> > So Freon(tm) is not a compound, but HeadMaster(tm)
> > is not a brand? How your head spins!
>
> TRANSLATION --> "red herring". i never said that an HMC was or was not a
> brand or anything else. i just threw out the term knowing you would choke
> on it.
TRANSLATION--> "I'd better back away from that one!"
Actually, I don't give a ---- *what* you think you said
about any HMC... it's a brand name, and Freon's
a compound, and you're stuck with it!
I actually gave a pretty good explanation of how it
could be used... without asking anyone. Then you
didn't reply in kind... because you didn't dare.
> > I made educated guesses without using
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i asked my sisters husbands brother"
I asked nobody... and you can't prove otherwise.
I must have come pretty close, since you won't
get very close to discussing it.
> > evidently I got pretty close
>
> TRANSLATION --> "i missed it by a mile" :
Describe it for us! You've been avoiding it!
I *gave* you the explanation from the Google
results... or are you saying that was wrong too?
__
Steve
..