134a Refrigerant
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Re: Enviromental Movement Commentary Complete
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11c6qqaj44f3d58@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:ifrwe.713$U61.56@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com.. .
> > So deforestation's good? Jeeping on
> the Moon, better than in the forest?
>
> how about jeeping in yellowstone? the trails are there, the money is there.
I have no problem with it... the whole place will
likely become a giant volcano, so tear it up!
> how do you feel about off roading in general? stream crossings?
There's a way to do it right, and a way to do it wrong...
stay on the trail, leave only tireprints, take only pictures.
There are other, proper places for racing, doing donuts,
etc. Have a care for the other fellow. Treat it like it was
yours... and you want to come back.
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#1892
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Re: Enviromental Movement Commentary Complete
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11c6qqaj44f3d58@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:ifrwe.713$U61.56@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com.. .
> > So deforestation's good? Jeeping on
> the Moon, better than in the forest?
>
> how about jeeping in yellowstone? the trails are there, the money is there.
I have no problem with it... the whole place will
likely become a giant volcano, so tear it up!
> how do you feel about off roading in general? stream crossings?
There's a way to do it right, and a way to do it wrong...
stay on the trail, leave only tireprints, take only pictures.
There are other, proper places for racing, doing donuts,
etc. Have a care for the other fellow. Treat it like it was
yours... and you want to come back.
__
Steve
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#1893
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Re: Enviromental Movement Commentary Complete
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11c6qqaj44f3d58@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:ifrwe.713$U61.56@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com.. .
> > So deforestation's good? Jeeping on
> the Moon, better than in the forest?
>
> how about jeeping in yellowstone? the trails are there, the money is there.
I have no problem with it... the whole place will
likely become a giant volcano, so tear it up!
> how do you feel about off roading in general? stream crossings?
There's a way to do it right, and a way to do it wrong...
stay on the trail, leave only tireprints, take only pictures.
There are other, proper places for racing, doing donuts,
etc. Have a care for the other fellow. Treat it like it was
yours... and you want to come back.
__
Steve
..
#1894
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11c6pgjhkudrs44@corp.supernews.com...
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:k2wwe.10046$zp6.7742@trnddc08...
>> Stephen Cowell wrote:
Jeff->Freon is a *compound*.
> >>>
Nate->WRONG! "freon" is a brand.
> > > Well, he's obviously got you there... since it's a brand,
> > > it *can't* be a compound... we all know that. Once
> > > you brand it, then the molecules behave differently!
> > Of course. thermal breakdown ;-)
> > I got a paper cut from a xerox. I had to put a bandaid on it after wiping
> > it off with a kleenex.
> bottom line, dont look down your nose at any technician as if youre some
> body when you dont even know the basics. that you would use a brand name
> instead of the proper terminology tells me that youre nowhere being an
> insider into the industry.
Perhaps giving his remarks the clarity of objectivity? Being
an 'insider' hasn't done much for your grasp of the applicable
science, Nate... he drew a picture of the molecule in ASCII,
I thought that was pretty impressive! Perhaps he'll give us
an explanation of partial pressures, or Boyle's Law next.
Do the Carnot Cycle!
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Steve
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#1895
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11c6pgjhkudrs44@corp.supernews.com...
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:k2wwe.10046$zp6.7742@trnddc08...
>> Stephen Cowell wrote:
Jeff->Freon is a *compound*.
> >>>
Nate->WRONG! "freon" is a brand.
> > > Well, he's obviously got you there... since it's a brand,
> > > it *can't* be a compound... we all know that. Once
> > > you brand it, then the molecules behave differently!
> > Of course. thermal breakdown ;-)
> > I got a paper cut from a xerox. I had to put a bandaid on it after wiping
> > it off with a kleenex.
> bottom line, dont look down your nose at any technician as if youre some
> body when you dont even know the basics. that you would use a brand name
> instead of the proper terminology tells me that youre nowhere being an
> insider into the industry.
Perhaps giving his remarks the clarity of objectivity? Being
an 'insider' hasn't done much for your grasp of the applicable
science, Nate... he drew a picture of the molecule in ASCII,
I thought that was pretty impressive! Perhaps he'll give us
an explanation of partial pressures, or Boyle's Law next.
Do the Carnot Cycle!
__
Steve
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#1896
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11c6pgjhkudrs44@corp.supernews.com...
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:k2wwe.10046$zp6.7742@trnddc08...
>> Stephen Cowell wrote:
Jeff->Freon is a *compound*.
> >>>
Nate->WRONG! "freon" is a brand.
> > > Well, he's obviously got you there... since it's a brand,
> > > it *can't* be a compound... we all know that. Once
> > > you brand it, then the molecules behave differently!
> > Of course. thermal breakdown ;-)
> > I got a paper cut from a xerox. I had to put a bandaid on it after wiping
> > it off with a kleenex.
> bottom line, dont look down your nose at any technician as if youre some
> body when you dont even know the basics. that you would use a brand name
> instead of the proper terminology tells me that youre nowhere being an
> insider into the industry.
Perhaps giving his remarks the clarity of objectivity? Being
an 'insider' hasn't done much for your grasp of the applicable
science, Nate... he drew a picture of the molecule in ASCII,
I thought that was pretty impressive! Perhaps he'll give us
an explanation of partial pressures, or Boyle's Law next.
Do the Carnot Cycle!
__
Steve
..
#1897
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11c6pgjhkudrs44@corp.supernews.com...
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:k2wwe.10046$zp6.7742@trnddc08...
>> Stephen Cowell wrote:
Jeff->Freon is a *compound*.
> >>>
Nate->WRONG! "freon" is a brand.
> > > Well, he's obviously got you there... since it's a brand,
> > > it *can't* be a compound... we all know that. Once
> > > you brand it, then the molecules behave differently!
> > Of course. thermal breakdown ;-)
> > I got a paper cut from a xerox. I had to put a bandaid on it after wiping
> > it off with a kleenex.
> bottom line, dont look down your nose at any technician as if youre some
> body when you dont even know the basics. that you would use a brand name
> instead of the proper terminology tells me that youre nowhere being an
> insider into the industry.
Perhaps giving his remarks the clarity of objectivity? Being
an 'insider' hasn't done much for your grasp of the applicable
science, Nate... he drew a picture of the molecule in ASCII,
I thought that was pretty impressive! Perhaps he'll give us
an explanation of partial pressures, or Boyle's Law next.
Do the Carnot Cycle!
__
Steve
..
#1898
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11c6qcc3tm19t32@corp.supernews.com...
> "Peter Pontbriand" <TRIMsprocketATstormDOTcaTRIM> wrote in message
> news:ZrWdnauoVqQABl_fRVn-rg@storm.ca...
> > Well heck, that means I've been wasting all this money on shielding gas
> > for
> > the MIG welder when I needn't have!
>
> heh.....good point!
Exactly! The argon is in suspension... it has diffused
into the atmosphere, just like the CFCs.
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Steve
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#1899
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11c6qcc3tm19t32@corp.supernews.com...
> "Peter Pontbriand" <TRIMsprocketATstormDOTcaTRIM> wrote in message
> news:ZrWdnauoVqQABl_fRVn-rg@storm.ca...
> > Well heck, that means I've been wasting all this money on shielding gas
> > for
> > the MIG welder when I needn't have!
>
> heh.....good point!
Exactly! The argon is in suspension... it has diffused
into the atmosphere, just like the CFCs.
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Steve
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#1900
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11c6qcc3tm19t32@corp.supernews.com...
> "Peter Pontbriand" <TRIMsprocketATstormDOTcaTRIM> wrote in message
> news:ZrWdnauoVqQABl_fRVn-rg@storm.ca...
> > Well heck, that means I've been wasting all this money on shielding gas
> > for
> > the MIG welder when I needn't have!
>
> heh.....good point!
Exactly! The argon is in suspension... it has diffused
into the atmosphere, just like the CFCs.
__
Steve
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