"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:ifrwe.713$U61.56@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com.. .
> So deforestation's good? Jeeping on
the Moon, better than in the forest?

how about jeeping in yellowstone? the trails are there, the money is there.
how do you feel about off roading in general? stream crossings?

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com

 

I have been to yellowstone twice. I think I'd rather Jeep on the moon.
There are no streams there but you could go crater hopping.


"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11c6qqaj44f3d58@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:ifrwe.713$U61.56@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com.. .
>> So deforestation's good? Jeeping on
> the Moon, better than in the forest?
>
> how about jeeping in yellowstone? the trails are there, the money is
> there. how do you feel about off roading in general? stream crossings?
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>

 

I have been to yellowstone twice. I think I'd rather Jeep on the moon.
There are no streams there but you could go crater hopping.


"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11c6qqaj44f3d58@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:ifrwe.713$U61.56@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com.. .
>> So deforestation's good? Jeeping on
> the Moon, better than in the forest?
>
> how about jeeping in yellowstone? the trails are there, the money is
> there. how do you feel about off roading in general? stream crossings?
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>

 

I have been to yellowstone twice. I think I'd rather Jeep on the moon.
There are no streams there but you could go crater hopping.


"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11c6qqaj44f3d58@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:ifrwe.713$U61.56@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com.. .
>> So deforestation's good? Jeeping on
> the Moon, better than in the forest?
>
> how about jeeping in yellowstone? the trails are there, the money is
> there. how do you feel about off roading in general? stream crossings?
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>

 

I have been to yellowstone twice. I think I'd rather Jeep on the moon.
There are no streams there but you could go crater hopping.


"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11c6qqaj44f3d58@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:ifrwe.713$U61.56@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com.. .
>> So deforestation's good? Jeeping on
> the Moon, better than in the forest?
>
> how about jeeping in yellowstone? the trails are there, the money is
> there. how do you feel about off roading in general? stream crossings?
>
> --
> Nathan W. Collier
> http://7SlotGrille.com
> http://UtilityOffRoad.com
>

 

"Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message news:85c0c$42c2f61c$422afe88$7284@FUSE.NET...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Kyxwe.747$U61.131@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
>
> "Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:23bb9$42c27775$422afe88$29864@FUSE.NET...
> ...
> >I wrote:
> > "Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote :
> >> > Perhaps I am showing my age or reflecting on the "knowledge" based
> >> > education I received in the pre-(wacko) environmentalist days by
> >> > teachers
> >> > who taught for the love of teaching and the sacred duty of passing
> >> > education to the youth of our civilization and not the current
> >> > generation
> >> > of mal-content, long haired ,pinko, commie, liberal, tree hugging,
> >> > volvo
> >> > driving, teddy kennedy-eugene mccarthy- jimmy carter-clinton voting,
> >> > perverts who went into teaching because it offered an automatic
> >> > exemption
> >> > from national service during the Vietnam war.
>
> >> You're a *real* poopie-head... talk to your NeoCon buddies
> >> about *exemptions*... cowards all. George Will, Pat Buchannan,
> >> Bill O'Reilly, Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Bill Kristol, Rush Limbaugh,
> >> Phil Gramm, Clarence Thomas, Newt Gingrich, Saxby Chambliss,
> >> Bill Bennett, Ken Starr, Judd Gregg, John Ashcroft, Tom Delay...
> >> ---- Cheney... deferred. Chickenhawks, we call them.
>
> > I find it odd that Democrats are suddenly so very interested in the
> > particulars of military service. They didn't seem to care during Clinton's
> > electoral process.
>
> Whimpering noted! Clinton didn't commit the country
> to *war*, on trumped-up evidence... that's the '-hawk'
> part of 'chickenhawk'. Impressive list, isn't it?
>
> >> Let's talk for a minute about your buddy, Dennis Rader...
> >> model citizen, though just like you, voted just like you,
> >> looked just like you... the sickest f*ck out there. He's
> >> your buddy... you deserve him.
>
> You're not going to defend your *buddy*? He certainly
> wasn't a "mal-content, long haired ,pinko, commie, liberal,
> tree hugging, volvo-driving, teddy kennedy-eugene mccarthy-
> jimmy carter-clinton voting, pervert(s)"... he was of the
> much more dangerous kind, a RW wacko... like McVey
> or Koresh. Strange how excesses on the Left are never
> quite as awe-inspiring as those on the Right... Clinton's
> pecker vs. Iraq, basically.

I guess you're letting your buddy hang out to dry...

> It occurs to me that every time Clinton was caught in a new scandal that he
> would attack some foreign power. In at least one case he made a feeble
> strike at bin Laden. If he would have followed through perhaps 911 would
> never of happened.

The military screwed the pooch on the cruise missile
attack... read Richard Clarke for more. Basically, they
telegraphed the launch, as they were specifically told
not to do. Elements in the Paki SS warned OBL...
he was not where we thought he'd be. 'Following up'
would have involved an invasion... nobody would
have gone for it, not before 9/11.

Not that anything would change your mind... your boy
is five years into screwing the pooch and you *still*
want to blame Clinton.

>
> It really doesn't matter if Sadaam had WMD or not. He has used them in the
> past against both his own people and neighboring countries. He 13 years
> later claimed he had no weapons but was unable to provide ANY documentation
> of their disposition or disposal. He continued to impede the weapons
> inspectors in violation of his surrender agreement after the first gulf war.

So what? We were lied to, in order to get into Iraq.

> He was an actual threat to the stability of the mid-east region and since
> such a large percentage of the world's energy resources come from there the
> entire industrialized world had national interests in regional stability.
> (Yes, the evil oil companies are the problem..... "War for Oil"..)

And we're the World Police... sounds like a 'liberal'
thing to do, to me... be the World Police.

> The continuing problems are not from "insurgents" but from TERRORISTS who
> are more than happy to continue killing their own citizens who are trying to
> reform their own government that wants to provide freedom for all, not just
> Sadaam's supporters..

So what? As long as we're over there, then we'll be
targets to shoot at. After we leave, they can concentrate
on each other...

> If I were in charge I would not treat these terrorists so kindly, I would
> follow the Israeli model of reprisal. If your village hosts a ---------
> cell that attacks me, I'd wipe out the entire village and then boast proudly
> about it. Do I fell sorry for the "innocents" in these --------- villages?
> NO, if you food, clothe, and house a --------- then you are a --------- no
> matter if you are male, female, 8 or 80.

Now we see the evil that lurks in your mind...
you are one sick dude.

> Had you served in Vietnam you would know that the slopes (err... communist
> citizens of Vietnam) would just as likely send their children to beg for
> candy carrying grenades as look at you and the ARVN (south Vietnamese army)
> was so full of Vietcong that when you ferried them anywhere you had to cover
> them with your miniguns to prevent them from rolling a grenade back at you.
> But we digress.

No, you don't digress... you disgust.

> I think the problem is that we are too easy-going on these Iraqi TERRORISTS.
> No one $crews with the Russian "Peacekeepers" because they know the soviet
> method of pacification is to kill all the terrorists, all of their family
> members, and everyone they ever met. Brutal, but it works.... as hard as it
> is for me to say anything nice about the russkies.

Yeah, they did real good in Afghanistan... they
remember that one fondly.

> To paint all "happily married", "attentive husband and fathers", "active
> church members", and "scout leaders" as psychopathic killers is a bit
> overblown and simplistic even for the far left fringe. You conveniently
> forget that the "god fearing", "active church boys", demanding freedom died
> to provide the freedoms you enjoy. The saying goes.. "Freedom isn't free."

When you wrap your sick self in the flag, you
disgrace it.

> I don't really resemble Dennis Rader all that much, while my hair is rapidly
> turning white I still have a full head of hair. I'm not happily married, my
> wife ran off with *one* of her boyfriends leaving me a single parent. I did
> study for the priesthood which surprises many of the people who find out,
> and I was a church based scout leader. I have also vote in all the
> elections since I turned 21 and give money to most of the village charities.
> My parents got us started years ago with Habitat for Humanity (a favorite of
> Jimmy Carter).

We're all waiting for you to go postal... you fit
the profile well. Dreaming about burning villages
is some sick ----... get help.

> I guess I do have all the qualifications to be considered a member of the
> "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy" although I am not a registered republican. I
> vote independent.... I vote for the best man. Actually I vote for the man
> that I think will screw things up the least. Usually that man is a
> republican but not always...

Doesn't matter... just get yourself some help.

> I am proud that I am the 13th generation of soldiers in the family. My
> father fought in two wars, I fought in one and a collection of "military
> actions" and don't complain that I will walk with a limp the rest of my
> life. My nephew is proudly serving as a combat engineer in Iraq. My family
> has protected the citizenry of their areas back at least to 1625 in Europe
> and in north America before this country war born by fighting for the
> British in the French and Indian war.

You have a long ancestry of violence...

> It really bunches my shorts when a panty-waste complains about how his
> freedom is provided. You want to complain? Pick up a rifle and join me
> walking the wire. After they dig out a load of shrapnel you can complain all
> you want and I'll support you. Till then SHUT THE F%&K UP!

You are not the solution, but the problem. Allow the
rest of humanity to be sane and healthy... because you're
not. Get help.
__
Steve
..

 

"Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message news:85c0c$42c2f61c$422afe88$7284@FUSE.NET...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Kyxwe.747$U61.131@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
>
> "Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:23bb9$42c27775$422afe88$29864@FUSE.NET...
> ...
> >I wrote:
> > "Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote :
> >> > Perhaps I am showing my age or reflecting on the "knowledge" based
> >> > education I received in the pre-(wacko) environmentalist days by
> >> > teachers
> >> > who taught for the love of teaching and the sacred duty of passing
> >> > education to the youth of our civilization and not the current
> >> > generation
> >> > of mal-content, long haired ,pinko, commie, liberal, tree hugging,
> >> > volvo
> >> > driving, teddy kennedy-eugene mccarthy- jimmy carter-clinton voting,
> >> > perverts who went into teaching because it offered an automatic
> >> > exemption
> >> > from national service during the Vietnam war.
>
> >> You're a *real* poopie-head... talk to your NeoCon buddies
> >> about *exemptions*... cowards all. George Will, Pat Buchannan,
> >> Bill O'Reilly, Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Bill Kristol, Rush Limbaugh,
> >> Phil Gramm, Clarence Thomas, Newt Gingrich, Saxby Chambliss,
> >> Bill Bennett, Ken Starr, Judd Gregg, John Ashcroft, Tom Delay...
> >> ---- Cheney... deferred. Chickenhawks, we call them.
>
> > I find it odd that Democrats are suddenly so very interested in the
> > particulars of military service. They didn't seem to care during Clinton's
> > electoral process.
>
> Whimpering noted! Clinton didn't commit the country
> to *war*, on trumped-up evidence... that's the '-hawk'
> part of 'chickenhawk'. Impressive list, isn't it?
>
> >> Let's talk for a minute about your buddy, Dennis Rader...
> >> model citizen, though just like you, voted just like you,
> >> looked just like you... the sickest f*ck out there. He's
> >> your buddy... you deserve him.
>
> You're not going to defend your *buddy*? He certainly
> wasn't a "mal-content, long haired ,pinko, commie, liberal,
> tree hugging, volvo-driving, teddy kennedy-eugene mccarthy-
> jimmy carter-clinton voting, pervert(s)"... he was of the
> much more dangerous kind, a RW wacko... like McVey
> or Koresh. Strange how excesses on the Left are never
> quite as awe-inspiring as those on the Right... Clinton's
> pecker vs. Iraq, basically.

I guess you're letting your buddy hang out to dry...

> It occurs to me that every time Clinton was caught in a new scandal that he
> would attack some foreign power. In at least one case he made a feeble
> strike at bin Laden. If he would have followed through perhaps 911 would
> never of happened.

The military screwed the pooch on the cruise missile
attack... read Richard Clarke for more. Basically, they
telegraphed the launch, as they were specifically told
not to do. Elements in the Paki SS warned OBL...
he was not where we thought he'd be. 'Following up'
would have involved an invasion... nobody would
have gone for it, not before 9/11.

Not that anything would change your mind... your boy
is five years into screwing the pooch and you *still*
want to blame Clinton.

>
> It really doesn't matter if Sadaam had WMD or not. He has used them in the
> past against both his own people and neighboring countries. He 13 years
> later claimed he had no weapons but was unable to provide ANY documentation
> of their disposition or disposal. He continued to impede the weapons
> inspectors in violation of his surrender agreement after the first gulf war.

So what? We were lied to, in order to get into Iraq.

> He was an actual threat to the stability of the mid-east region and since
> such a large percentage of the world's energy resources come from there the
> entire industrialized world had national interests in regional stability.
> (Yes, the evil oil companies are the problem..... "War for Oil"..)

And we're the World Police... sounds like a 'liberal'
thing to do, to me... be the World Police.

> The continuing problems are not from "insurgents" but from TERRORISTS who
> are more than happy to continue killing their own citizens who are trying to
> reform their own government that wants to provide freedom for all, not just
> Sadaam's supporters..

So what? As long as we're over there, then we'll be
targets to shoot at. After we leave, they can concentrate
on each other...

> If I were in charge I would not treat these terrorists so kindly, I would
> follow the Israeli model of reprisal. If your village hosts a ---------
> cell that attacks me, I'd wipe out the entire village and then boast proudly
> about it. Do I fell sorry for the "innocents" in these --------- villages?
> NO, if you food, clothe, and house a --------- then you are a --------- no
> matter if you are male, female, 8 or 80.

Now we see the evil that lurks in your mind...
you are one sick dude.

> Had you served in Vietnam you would know that the slopes (err... communist
> citizens of Vietnam) would just as likely send their children to beg for
> candy carrying grenades as look at you and the ARVN (south Vietnamese army)
> was so full of Vietcong that when you ferried them anywhere you had to cover
> them with your miniguns to prevent them from rolling a grenade back at you.
> But we digress.

No, you don't digress... you disgust.

> I think the problem is that we are too easy-going on these Iraqi TERRORISTS.
> No one $crews with the Russian "Peacekeepers" because they know the soviet
> method of pacification is to kill all the terrorists, all of their family
> members, and everyone they ever met. Brutal, but it works.... as hard as it
> is for me to say anything nice about the russkies.

Yeah, they did real good in Afghanistan... they
remember that one fondly.

> To paint all "happily married", "attentive husband and fathers", "active
> church members", and "scout leaders" as psychopathic killers is a bit
> overblown and simplistic even for the far left fringe. You conveniently
> forget that the "god fearing", "active church boys", demanding freedom died
> to provide the freedoms you enjoy. The saying goes.. "Freedom isn't free."

When you wrap your sick self in the flag, you
disgrace it.

> I don't really resemble Dennis Rader all that much, while my hair is rapidly
> turning white I still have a full head of hair. I'm not happily married, my
> wife ran off with *one* of her boyfriends leaving me a single parent. I did
> study for the priesthood which surprises many of the people who find out,
> and I was a church based scout leader. I have also vote in all the
> elections since I turned 21 and give money to most of the village charities.
> My parents got us started years ago with Habitat for Humanity (a favorite of
> Jimmy Carter).

We're all waiting for you to go postal... you fit
the profile well. Dreaming about burning villages
is some sick ----... get help.

> I guess I do have all the qualifications to be considered a member of the
> "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy" although I am not a registered republican. I
> vote independent.... I vote for the best man. Actually I vote for the man
> that I think will screw things up the least. Usually that man is a
> republican but not always...

Doesn't matter... just get yourself some help.

> I am proud that I am the 13th generation of soldiers in the family. My
> father fought in two wars, I fought in one and a collection of "military
> actions" and don't complain that I will walk with a limp the rest of my
> life. My nephew is proudly serving as a combat engineer in Iraq. My family
> has protected the citizenry of their areas back at least to 1625 in Europe
> and in north America before this country war born by fighting for the
> British in the French and Indian war.

You have a long ancestry of violence...

> It really bunches my shorts when a panty-waste complains about how his
> freedom is provided. You want to complain? Pick up a rifle and join me
> walking the wire. After they dig out a load of shrapnel you can complain all
> you want and I'll support you. Till then SHUT THE F%&K UP!

You are not the solution, but the problem. Allow the
rest of humanity to be sane and healthy... because you're
not. Get help.
__
Steve
..

 

"Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message news:85c0c$42c2f61c$422afe88$7284@FUSE.NET...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Kyxwe.747$U61.131@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
>
> "Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:23bb9$42c27775$422afe88$29864@FUSE.NET...
> ...
> >I wrote:
> > "Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote :
> >> > Perhaps I am showing my age or reflecting on the "knowledge" based
> >> > education I received in the pre-(wacko) environmentalist days by
> >> > teachers
> >> > who taught for the love of teaching and the sacred duty of passing
> >> > education to the youth of our civilization and not the current
> >> > generation
> >> > of mal-content, long haired ,pinko, commie, liberal, tree hugging,
> >> > volvo
> >> > driving, teddy kennedy-eugene mccarthy- jimmy carter-clinton voting,
> >> > perverts who went into teaching because it offered an automatic
> >> > exemption
> >> > from national service during the Vietnam war.
>
> >> You're a *real* poopie-head... talk to your NeoCon buddies
> >> about *exemptions*... cowards all. George Will, Pat Buchannan,
> >> Bill O'Reilly, Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Bill Kristol, Rush Limbaugh,
> >> Phil Gramm, Clarence Thomas, Newt Gingrich, Saxby Chambliss,
> >> Bill Bennett, Ken Starr, Judd Gregg, John Ashcroft, Tom Delay...
> >> ---- Cheney... deferred. Chickenhawks, we call them.
>
> > I find it odd that Democrats are suddenly so very interested in the
> > particulars of military service. They didn't seem to care during Clinton's
> > electoral process.
>
> Whimpering noted! Clinton didn't commit the country
> to *war*, on trumped-up evidence... that's the '-hawk'
> part of 'chickenhawk'. Impressive list, isn't it?
>
> >> Let's talk for a minute about your buddy, Dennis Rader...
> >> model citizen, though just like you, voted just like you,
> >> looked just like you... the sickest f*ck out there. He's
> >> your buddy... you deserve him.
>
> You're not going to defend your *buddy*? He certainly
> wasn't a "mal-content, long haired ,pinko, commie, liberal,
> tree hugging, volvo-driving, teddy kennedy-eugene mccarthy-
> jimmy carter-clinton voting, pervert(s)"... he was of the
> much more dangerous kind, a RW wacko... like McVey
> or Koresh. Strange how excesses on the Left are never
> quite as awe-inspiring as those on the Right... Clinton's
> pecker vs. Iraq, basically.

I guess you're letting your buddy hang out to dry...

> It occurs to me that every time Clinton was caught in a new scandal that he
> would attack some foreign power. In at least one case he made a feeble
> strike at bin Laden. If he would have followed through perhaps 911 would
> never of happened.

The military screwed the pooch on the cruise missile
attack... read Richard Clarke for more. Basically, they
telegraphed the launch, as they were specifically told
not to do. Elements in the Paki SS warned OBL...
he was not where we thought he'd be. 'Following up'
would have involved an invasion... nobody would
have gone for it, not before 9/11.

Not that anything would change your mind... your boy
is five years into screwing the pooch and you *still*
want to blame Clinton.

>
> It really doesn't matter if Sadaam had WMD or not. He has used them in the
> past against both his own people and neighboring countries. He 13 years
> later claimed he had no weapons but was unable to provide ANY documentation
> of their disposition or disposal. He continued to impede the weapons
> inspectors in violation of his surrender agreement after the first gulf war.

So what? We were lied to, in order to get into Iraq.

> He was an actual threat to the stability of the mid-east region and since
> such a large percentage of the world's energy resources come from there the
> entire industrialized world had national interests in regional stability.
> (Yes, the evil oil companies are the problem..... "War for Oil"..)

And we're the World Police... sounds like a 'liberal'
thing to do, to me... be the World Police.

> The continuing problems are not from "insurgents" but from TERRORISTS who
> are more than happy to continue killing their own citizens who are trying to
> reform their own government that wants to provide freedom for all, not just
> Sadaam's supporters..

So what? As long as we're over there, then we'll be
targets to shoot at. After we leave, they can concentrate
on each other...

> If I were in charge I would not treat these terrorists so kindly, I would
> follow the Israeli model of reprisal. If your village hosts a ---------
> cell that attacks me, I'd wipe out the entire village and then boast proudly
> about it. Do I fell sorry for the "innocents" in these --------- villages?
> NO, if you food, clothe, and house a --------- then you are a --------- no
> matter if you are male, female, 8 or 80.

Now we see the evil that lurks in your mind...
you are one sick dude.

> Had you served in Vietnam you would know that the slopes (err... communist
> citizens of Vietnam) would just as likely send their children to beg for
> candy carrying grenades as look at you and the ARVN (south Vietnamese army)
> was so full of Vietcong that when you ferried them anywhere you had to cover
> them with your miniguns to prevent them from rolling a grenade back at you.
> But we digress.

No, you don't digress... you disgust.

> I think the problem is that we are too easy-going on these Iraqi TERRORISTS.
> No one $crews with the Russian "Peacekeepers" because they know the soviet
> method of pacification is to kill all the terrorists, all of their family
> members, and everyone they ever met. Brutal, but it works.... as hard as it
> is for me to say anything nice about the russkies.

Yeah, they did real good in Afghanistan... they
remember that one fondly.

> To paint all "happily married", "attentive husband and fathers", "active
> church members", and "scout leaders" as psychopathic killers is a bit
> overblown and simplistic even for the far left fringe. You conveniently
> forget that the "god fearing", "active church boys", demanding freedom died
> to provide the freedoms you enjoy. The saying goes.. "Freedom isn't free."

When you wrap your sick self in the flag, you
disgrace it.

> I don't really resemble Dennis Rader all that much, while my hair is rapidly
> turning white I still have a full head of hair. I'm not happily married, my
> wife ran off with *one* of her boyfriends leaving me a single parent. I did
> study for the priesthood which surprises many of the people who find out,
> and I was a church based scout leader. I have also vote in all the
> elections since I turned 21 and give money to most of the village charities.
> My parents got us started years ago with Habitat for Humanity (a favorite of
> Jimmy Carter).

We're all waiting for you to go postal... you fit
the profile well. Dreaming about burning villages
is some sick ----... get help.

> I guess I do have all the qualifications to be considered a member of the
> "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy" although I am not a registered republican. I
> vote independent.... I vote for the best man. Actually I vote for the man
> that I think will screw things up the least. Usually that man is a
> republican but not always...

Doesn't matter... just get yourself some help.

> I am proud that I am the 13th generation of soldiers in the family. My
> father fought in two wars, I fought in one and a collection of "military
> actions" and don't complain that I will walk with a limp the rest of my
> life. My nephew is proudly serving as a combat engineer in Iraq. My family
> has protected the citizenry of their areas back at least to 1625 in Europe
> and in north America before this country war born by fighting for the
> British in the French and Indian war.

You have a long ancestry of violence...

> It really bunches my shorts when a panty-waste complains about how his
> freedom is provided. You want to complain? Pick up a rifle and join me
> walking the wire. After they dig out a load of shrapnel you can complain all
> you want and I'll support you. Till then SHUT THE F%&K UP!

You are not the solution, but the problem. Allow the
rest of humanity to be sane and healthy... because you're
not. Get help.
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Steve
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"Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message news:85c0c$42c2f61c$422afe88$7284@FUSE.NET...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Kyxwe.747$U61.131@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
>
> "Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:23bb9$42c27775$422afe88$29864@FUSE.NET...
> ...
> >I wrote:
> > "Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote :
> >> > Perhaps I am showing my age or reflecting on the "knowledge" based
> >> > education I received in the pre-(wacko) environmentalist days by
> >> > teachers
> >> > who taught for the love of teaching and the sacred duty of passing
> >> > education to the youth of our civilization and not the current
> >> > generation
> >> > of mal-content, long haired ,pinko, commie, liberal, tree hugging,
> >> > volvo
> >> > driving, teddy kennedy-eugene mccarthy- jimmy carter-clinton voting,
> >> > perverts who went into teaching because it offered an automatic
> >> > exemption
> >> > from national service during the Vietnam war.
>
> >> You're a *real* poopie-head... talk to your NeoCon buddies
> >> about *exemptions*... cowards all. George Will, Pat Buchannan,
> >> Bill O'Reilly, Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Bill Kristol, Rush Limbaugh,
> >> Phil Gramm, Clarence Thomas, Newt Gingrich, Saxby Chambliss,
> >> Bill Bennett, Ken Starr, Judd Gregg, John Ashcroft, Tom Delay...
> >> ---- Cheney... deferred. Chickenhawks, we call them.
>
> > I find it odd that Democrats are suddenly so very interested in the
> > particulars of military service. They didn't seem to care during Clinton's
> > electoral process.
>
> Whimpering noted! Clinton didn't commit the country
> to *war*, on trumped-up evidence... that's the '-hawk'
> part of 'chickenhawk'. Impressive list, isn't it?
>
> >> Let's talk for a minute about your buddy, Dennis Rader...
> >> model citizen, though just like you, voted just like you,
> >> looked just like you... the sickest f*ck out there. He's
> >> your buddy... you deserve him.
>
> You're not going to defend your *buddy*? He certainly
> wasn't a "mal-content, long haired ,pinko, commie, liberal,
> tree hugging, volvo-driving, teddy kennedy-eugene mccarthy-
> jimmy carter-clinton voting, pervert(s)"... he was of the
> much more dangerous kind, a RW wacko... like McVey
> or Koresh. Strange how excesses on the Left are never
> quite as awe-inspiring as those on the Right... Clinton's
> pecker vs. Iraq, basically.

I guess you're letting your buddy hang out to dry...

> It occurs to me that every time Clinton was caught in a new scandal that he
> would attack some foreign power. In at least one case he made a feeble
> strike at bin Laden. If he would have followed through perhaps 911 would
> never of happened.

The military screwed the pooch on the cruise missile
attack... read Richard Clarke for more. Basically, they
telegraphed the launch, as they were specifically told
not to do. Elements in the Paki SS warned OBL...
he was not where we thought he'd be. 'Following up'
would have involved an invasion... nobody would
have gone for it, not before 9/11.

Not that anything would change your mind... your boy
is five years into screwing the pooch and you *still*
want to blame Clinton.

>
> It really doesn't matter if Sadaam had WMD or not. He has used them in the
> past against both his own people and neighboring countries. He 13 years
> later claimed he had no weapons but was unable to provide ANY documentation
> of their disposition or disposal. He continued to impede the weapons
> inspectors in violation of his surrender agreement after the first gulf war.

So what? We were lied to, in order to get into Iraq.

> He was an actual threat to the stability of the mid-east region and since
> such a large percentage of the world's energy resources come from there the
> entire industrialized world had national interests in regional stability.
> (Yes, the evil oil companies are the problem..... "War for Oil"..)

And we're the World Police... sounds like a 'liberal'
thing to do, to me... be the World Police.

> The continuing problems are not from "insurgents" but from TERRORISTS who
> are more than happy to continue killing their own citizens who are trying to
> reform their own government that wants to provide freedom for all, not just
> Sadaam's supporters..

So what? As long as we're over there, then we'll be
targets to shoot at. After we leave, they can concentrate
on each other...

> If I were in charge I would not treat these terrorists so kindly, I would
> follow the Israeli model of reprisal. If your village hosts a ---------
> cell that attacks me, I'd wipe out the entire village and then boast proudly
> about it. Do I fell sorry for the "innocents" in these --------- villages?
> NO, if you food, clothe, and house a --------- then you are a --------- no
> matter if you are male, female, 8 or 80.

Now we see the evil that lurks in your mind...
you are one sick dude.

> Had you served in Vietnam you would know that the slopes (err... communist
> citizens of Vietnam) would just as likely send their children to beg for
> candy carrying grenades as look at you and the ARVN (south Vietnamese army)
> was so full of Vietcong that when you ferried them anywhere you had to cover
> them with your miniguns to prevent them from rolling a grenade back at you.
> But we digress.

No, you don't digress... you disgust.

> I think the problem is that we are too easy-going on these Iraqi TERRORISTS.
> No one $crews with the Russian "Peacekeepers" because they know the soviet
> method of pacification is to kill all the terrorists, all of their family
> members, and everyone they ever met. Brutal, but it works.... as hard as it
> is for me to say anything nice about the russkies.

Yeah, they did real good in Afghanistan... they
remember that one fondly.

> To paint all "happily married", "attentive husband and fathers", "active
> church members", and "scout leaders" as psychopathic killers is a bit
> overblown and simplistic even for the far left fringe. You conveniently
> forget that the "god fearing", "active church boys", demanding freedom died
> to provide the freedoms you enjoy. The saying goes.. "Freedom isn't free."

When you wrap your sick self in the flag, you
disgrace it.

> I don't really resemble Dennis Rader all that much, while my hair is rapidly
> turning white I still have a full head of hair. I'm not happily married, my
> wife ran off with *one* of her boyfriends leaving me a single parent. I did
> study for the priesthood which surprises many of the people who find out,
> and I was a church based scout leader. I have also vote in all the
> elections since I turned 21 and give money to most of the village charities.
> My parents got us started years ago with Habitat for Humanity (a favorite of
> Jimmy Carter).

We're all waiting for you to go postal... you fit
the profile well. Dreaming about burning villages
is some sick ----... get help.

> I guess I do have all the qualifications to be considered a member of the
> "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy" although I am not a registered republican. I
> vote independent.... I vote for the best man. Actually I vote for the man
> that I think will screw things up the least. Usually that man is a
> republican but not always...

Doesn't matter... just get yourself some help.

> I am proud that I am the 13th generation of soldiers in the family. My
> father fought in two wars, I fought in one and a collection of "military
> actions" and don't complain that I will walk with a limp the rest of my
> life. My nephew is proudly serving as a combat engineer in Iraq. My family
> has protected the citizenry of their areas back at least to 1625 in Europe
> and in north America before this country war born by fighting for the
> British in the French and Indian war.

You have a long ancestry of violence...

> It really bunches my shorts when a panty-waste complains about how his
> freedom is provided. You want to complain? Pick up a rifle and join me
> walking the wire. After they dig out a load of shrapnel you can complain all
> you want and I'll support you. Till then SHUT THE F%&K UP!

You are not the solution, but the problem. Allow the
rest of humanity to be sane and healthy... because you're
not. Get help.
__
Steve
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"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11c6qqaj44f3d58@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:ifrwe.713$U61.56@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com.. .
> > So deforestation's good? Jeeping on
> the Moon, better than in the forest?
>
> how about jeeping in yellowstone? the trails are there, the money is there.

I have no problem with it... the whole place will
likely become a giant volcano, so tear it up!

> how do you feel about off roading in general? stream crossings?

There's a way to do it right, and a way to do it wrong...
stay on the trail, leave only tireprints, take only pictures.
There are other, proper places for racing, doing donuts,
etc. Have a care for the other fellow. Treat it like it was
yours... and you want to come back.
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Steve
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