Thanks for the link Doug. I like the sound of that Usenet group based on
the description at http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/2.07/alt.pave.html

In actuality there are more trees in north America now than there were in
1900. This is because the lumber companies almost a century ago started
planting more trees than they cut down.

I am not really as hard line as I sound sometimes.... although my brother
tells everyone I think that Richard Nixon was a liberal.....

I was very testy with Stephen in an earlier post. It must be the hot and
humid weather. Note: science has shown that climate changes are a totally
natural event that have happened constantly in the recorded (in rock and
ice) history of the planet.

I believe there is something to the theory of the "greenhouse effect" but I
do not believe it is anywhere as serious as the wacko environmentalists
would want you to believe. I personally believe they would garner more
support if they offered the truth instead of exaggeration.

It is interesting to note that when Al Gore's advisor on global warming
admitted that some of his original conclusions were based on improper
assumptions that no change was made in Gore's environmental platform.

<sigh> Perhaps I am a Neanderthal. My last 6 vehicles have been sports cars
or SUVs.... I wanted them, I could afford them, so I bought them....

Perhaps my next jeep will be powered by a hydrogen fuel cell. When I was in
college we were taught that a vehicle that expelled only water and carbon
dioxide was non-polluting....



"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:Xtvwe.22203$mC.1905@okepread07...
> Stephen Cowell did pass the time by typing:
>> "Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message
>> news:3ef13$42c1de51$d844e77c$1038@FUSE.NET...
>>> Everything that the environmental movement has proclaimed since its
>>> coming
>>> of age in the 1960s and 1970s has turned out to be wrong.
>>
>> Oh, boy... another one. So deforestation's good? Jeeping on
>> the Moon, better than in the forest? It's good to dump crankcase
>> oil in the gutter, or in your backyard? Rivers that burn are
>> better than those that don't? Industry should not be regulated
>> at all? One from the looney bin...
>
> alt.pave.the.earth
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
>

 

I'll agree that those theories were probably taught in grade school when I
was a youth. I see from the web address it is now a college course at
Georgia State University.


>
> DIFFUSION.
>
> Here is a grade school level page on the subject:
> http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/diffus.html
>
..

 

I'll agree that those theories were probably taught in grade school when I
was a youth. I see from the web address it is now a college course at
Georgia State University.


>
> DIFFUSION.
>
> Here is a grade school level page on the subject:
> http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/diffus.html
>
..

 

I'll agree that those theories were probably taught in grade school when I
was a youth. I see from the web address it is now a college course at
Georgia State University.


>
> DIFFUSION.
>
> Here is a grade school level page on the subject:
> http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/diffus.html
>
..

 

I'll agree that those theories were probably taught in grade school when I
was a youth. I see from the web address it is now a college course at
Georgia State University.


>
> DIFFUSION.
>
> Here is a grade school level page on the subject:
> http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/diffus.html
>
..

 

So you have our thunder storm clouds reaching the height of the
ozone, now?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jeff wrote:
>
> There are no puddles of dichlordifluoromethane laying around, as there
> are no puddles of argon, CO2, or O2. How come? All are heavier than the
> admixture we call "air".
>
> DIFFUSION.
>
> Here is a grade school level page on the subject:
> http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/diffus.html
>
> BTW, If you want to know how CFCs get to the stratosphere, look at the
> thermal loops in tropical cumulonimbus formations. They can build and
> carry hailstones the size of grapefruits.

 

So you have our thunder storm clouds reaching the height of the
ozone, now?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jeff wrote:
>
> There are no puddles of dichlordifluoromethane laying around, as there
> are no puddles of argon, CO2, or O2. How come? All are heavier than the
> admixture we call "air".
>
> DIFFUSION.
>
> Here is a grade school level page on the subject:
> http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/diffus.html
>
> BTW, If you want to know how CFCs get to the stratosphere, look at the
> thermal loops in tropical cumulonimbus formations. They can build and
> carry hailstones the size of grapefruits.

 

So you have our thunder storm clouds reaching the height of the
ozone, now?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jeff wrote:
>
> There are no puddles of dichlordifluoromethane laying around, as there
> are no puddles of argon, CO2, or O2. How come? All are heavier than the
> admixture we call "air".
>
> DIFFUSION.
>
> Here is a grade school level page on the subject:
> http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/diffus.html
>
> BTW, If you want to know how CFCs get to the stratosphere, look at the
> thermal loops in tropical cumulonimbus formations. They can build and
> carry hailstones the size of grapefruits.

 

So you have our thunder storm clouds reaching the height of the
ozone, now?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jeff wrote:
>
> There are no puddles of dichlordifluoromethane laying around, as there
> are no puddles of argon, CO2, or O2. How come? All are heavier than the
> admixture we call "air".
>
> DIFFUSION.
>
> Here is a grade school level page on the subject:
> http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/diffus.html
>
> BTW, If you want to know how CFCs get to the stratosphere, look at the
> thermal loops in tropical cumulonimbus formations. They can build and
> carry hailstones the size of grapefruits.

 

Wow. Don't forget the taxpayers who made it all possible, even as far back
as 1625. I'll bet Stevie isn't one of those either. You should do some
research though, and see who popularized the "wipe out a whole village"
tactic. The Israelis did not invent it. In fact, I remember it being used
to justify 911...

Earle

"Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:85c0c$42c2f61c$422afe88$7284@FUSE.NET...
> It occurs to me that every time Clinton was caught in a new scandal that
he
> would attack some foreign power. In at least one case he made a feeble
> strike at bin Laden. If he would have followed through perhaps 911 would
> never of happened.
>
> It really doesn't matter if Sadaam had WMD or not. He has used them in
the
> past against both his own people and neighboring countries. He 13 years
> later claimed he had no weapons but was unable to provide ANY
documentation
> of their disposition or disposal. He continued to impede the weapons
> inspectors in violation of his surrender agreement after the first gulf
war.
>
> He was an actual threat to the stability of the mid-east region and since
> such a large percentage of the world's energy resources come from there
the
> entire industrialized world had national interests in regional stability.
> (Yes, the evil oil companies are the problem..... "War for Oil"..)
>
> The continuing problems are not from "insurgents" but from TERRORISTS who
> are more than happy to continue killing their own citizens who are trying
to
> reform their own government that wants to provide freedom for all, not
just
> Sadaam's supporters..
>
> If I were in charge I would not treat these terrorists so kindly, I would
> follow the Israeli model of reprisal. If your village hosts a ---------
> cell that attacks me, I'd wipe out the entire village and then boast
proudly
> about it. Do I fell sorry for the "innocents" in these ---------
villages?
> NO, if you food, clothe, and house a --------- then you are a --------- no
> matter if you are male, female, 8 or 80.
>
> Had you served in Vietnam you would know that the slopes (err...
communist
> citizens of Vietnam) would just as likely send their children to beg for
> candy carrying grenades as look at you and the ARVN (south Vietnamese
army)
> was so full of Vietcong that when you ferried them anywhere you had to
cover
> them with your miniguns to prevent them from rolling a grenade back at
you.
> But we digress.
>
> I think the problem is that we are too easy-going on these Iraqi
TERRORISTS.
> No one $crews with the Russian "Peacekeepers" because they know the soviet
> method of pacification is to kill all the terrorists, all of their family
> members, and everyone they ever met. Brutal, but it works.... as hard as
it
> is for me to say anything nice about the russkies.
>
> To paint all "happily married", "attentive husband and fathers", "active
> church members", and "scout leaders" as psychopathic killers is a bit
> overblown and simplistic even for the far left fringe. You conveniently
> forget that the "god fearing", "active church boys", demanding freedom
died
> to provide the freedoms you enjoy. The saying goes.. "Freedom isn't
free."
>
> I don't really resemble Dennis Rader all that much, while my hair is
rapidly
> turning white I still have a full head of hair. I'm not happily married,
my
> wife ran off with *one* of her boyfriends leaving me a single parent. I
did
> study for the priesthood which surprises many of the people who find out,
> and I was a church based scout leader. I have also vote in all the
> elections since I turned 21 and give money to most of the village
charities.
> My parents got us started years ago with Habitat for Humanity (a favorite
of
> Jimmy Carter).
>
> I guess I do have all the qualifications to be considered a member of the
> "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy" although I am not a registered republican. I
> vote independent.... I vote for the best man. Actually I vote for the man
> that I think will screw things up the least. Usually that man is a
> republican but not always...
>
> I am proud that I am the 13th generation of soldiers in the family. My
> father fought in two wars, I fought in one and a collection of "military
> actions" and don't complain that I will walk with a limp the rest of my
> life. My nephew is proudly serving as a combat engineer in Iraq. My
family
> has protected the citizenry of their areas back at least to 1625 in Europe
> and in north America before this country war born by fighting for the
> British in the French and Indian war.
>
> It really bunches my shorts when a panty-waste complains about how his
> freedom is provided. You want to complain? Pick up a rifle and join me
> walking the wire. After they dig out a load of shrapnel you can complain
all
> you want and I'll support you. Till then SHUT THE F%&K UP!
>
> billy ray, american
>
>
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Kyxwe.747$U61.131@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
>
> "Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:23bb9$42c27775$422afe88$29864@FUSE.NET...
> ...
> >I wrote:
> > "Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote :
> >> > Perhaps I am showing my age or reflecting on the "knowledge" based
> >> > education I received in the pre-(wacko) environmentalist days by
> >> > teachers
> >> > who taught for the love of teaching and the sacred duty of passing
> >> > education to the youth of our civilization and not the current
> >> > generation
> >> > of mal-content, long haired ,pinko, commie, liberal, tree hugging,
> >> > volvo
> >> > driving, teddy kennedy-eugene mccarthy- jimmy carter-clinton voting,
> >> > perverts who went into teaching because it offered an automatic
> >> > exemption
> >> > from national service during the Vietnam war.
>
> >> You're a *real* poopie-head... talk to your NeoCon buddies
> >> about *exemptions*... cowards all. George Will, Pat Buchannan,
> >> Bill O'Reilly, Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Bill Kristol, Rush Limbaugh,
> >> Phil Gramm, Clarence Thomas, Newt Gingrich, Saxby Chambliss,
> >> Bill Bennett, Ken Starr, Judd Gregg, John Ashcroft, Tom Delay...
> >> ---- Cheney... deferred. Chickenhawks, we call them.
>
> > I find it odd that Democrats are suddenly so very interested in the
> > particulars of military service. They didn't seem to care during
Clinton's
> > electoral process.
>
> Whimpering noted! Clinton didn't commit the country
> to *war*, on trumped-up evidence... that's the '-hawk'
> part of 'chickenhawk'. Impressive list, isn't it?
>
> >> Let's talk for a minute about your buddy, Dennis Rader...
> >> model citizen, though just like you, voted just like you,
> >> looked just like you... the sickest f*ck out there. He's
> >> your buddy... you deserve him.
>
> You're not going to defend your *buddy*? He certainly
> wasn't a "mal-content, long haired ,pinko, commie, liberal,
> tree hugging, volvo-driving, teddy kennedy-eugene mccarthy-
> jimmy carter-clinton voting, pervert(s)"... he was of the
> much more dangerous kind, a RW wacko... like McVey
> or Koresh. Strange how excesses on the Left are never
> quite as awe-inspiring as those on the Right... Clinton's
> pecker vs. Iraq, basically.
> __
> Steve
> .
>
>