00 ' XJ Adding Lockers - Whats' involved?
10-13-2004 | 04:11 AM
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00 ' XJ Adding Lockers - Whats' involved?
2000 XJ, 3" Lift, 31" tires
I am looking for info on what parts to buy and proper installation of
said parts.
I have replaced axels in 2 wheel drive vehs. so have knowledge and
experience under the pan. Have a Warn 8000 wench and now would like
to install the lockers.
Rick
Bass Players Drink Bass
I am looking for info on what parts to buy and proper installation of
said parts.
I have replaced axels in 2 wheel drive vehs. so have knowledge and
experience under the pan. Have a Warn 8000 wench and now would like
to install the lockers.
Rick
Bass Players Drink Bass
10-13-2004 | 11:30 AM
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Re: 00 ' XJ Adding Lockers - Whats' involved?
Do some research and find out what kind of locker you want.
Automatic locker?
Air operated locker?
electric locker?
I run an ARB locker in the rear (came with the axle I bought) and I run a
lockright in the front. The lockright locker is easy to install and you
could do that yourself. The ARB is a harder install and you would probably
want someone to help with that. Where in SoCal are you? Come see us at
www.socalxj.com and join the yahoo group. Also you could join us at
www.naxja.org We have people that sell parts, there are a few of us that do
regearing and locker installs, tons of info for you.
Kevin in San Diego
"Rick" <rmeadows3@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
news:f79805fa.0410122311.3f3cf047@posting.google.c om...
> 2000 XJ, 3" Lift, 31" tires
> I am looking for info on what parts to buy and proper installation of
> said parts.
> I have replaced axels in 2 wheel drive vehs. so have knowledge and
> experience under the pan. Have a Warn 8000 wench and now would like
> to install the lockers.
>
> Rick
> Bass Players Drink Bass
Automatic locker?
Air operated locker?
electric locker?
I run an ARB locker in the rear (came with the axle I bought) and I run a
lockright in the front. The lockright locker is easy to install and you
could do that yourself. The ARB is a harder install and you would probably
want someone to help with that. Where in SoCal are you? Come see us at
www.socalxj.com and join the yahoo group. Also you could join us at
www.naxja.org We have people that sell parts, there are a few of us that do
regearing and locker installs, tons of info for you.
Kevin in San Diego
"Rick" <rmeadows3@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
news:f79805fa.0410122311.3f3cf047@posting.google.c om...
> 2000 XJ, 3" Lift, 31" tires
> I am looking for info on what parts to buy and proper installation of
> said parts.
> I have replaced axels in 2 wheel drive vehs. so have knowledge and
> experience under the pan. Have a Warn 8000 wench and now would like
> to install the lockers.
>
> Rick
> Bass Players Drink Bass
10-13-2004 | 11:30 AM
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Re: 00 ' XJ Adding Lockers - Whats' involved?
Do some research and find out what kind of locker you want.
Automatic locker?
Air operated locker?
electric locker?
I run an ARB locker in the rear (came with the axle I bought) and I run a
lockright in the front. The lockright locker is easy to install and you
could do that yourself. The ARB is a harder install and you would probably
want someone to help with that. Where in SoCal are you? Come see us at
www.socalxj.com and join the yahoo group. Also you could join us at
www.naxja.org We have people that sell parts, there are a few of us that do
regearing and locker installs, tons of info for you.
Kevin in San Diego
"Rick" <rmeadows3@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
news:f79805fa.0410122311.3f3cf047@posting.google.c om...
> 2000 XJ, 3" Lift, 31" tires
> I am looking for info on what parts to buy and proper installation of
> said parts.
> I have replaced axels in 2 wheel drive vehs. so have knowledge and
> experience under the pan. Have a Warn 8000 wench and now would like
> to install the lockers.
>
> Rick
> Bass Players Drink Bass
Automatic locker?
Air operated locker?
electric locker?
I run an ARB locker in the rear (came with the axle I bought) and I run a
lockright in the front. The lockright locker is easy to install and you
could do that yourself. The ARB is a harder install and you would probably
want someone to help with that. Where in SoCal are you? Come see us at
www.socalxj.com and join the yahoo group. Also you could join us at
www.naxja.org We have people that sell parts, there are a few of us that do
regearing and locker installs, tons of info for you.
Kevin in San Diego
"Rick" <rmeadows3@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
news:f79805fa.0410122311.3f3cf047@posting.google.c om...
> 2000 XJ, 3" Lift, 31" tires
> I am looking for info on what parts to buy and proper installation of
> said parts.
> I have replaced axels in 2 wheel drive vehs. so have knowledge and
> experience under the pan. Have a Warn 8000 wench and now would like
> to install the lockers.
>
> Rick
> Bass Players Drink Bass
10-13-2004 | 11:30 AM
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Re: 00 ' XJ Adding Lockers - Whats' involved?
Do some research and find out what kind of locker you want.
Automatic locker?
Air operated locker?
electric locker?
I run an ARB locker in the rear (came with the axle I bought) and I run a
lockright in the front. The lockright locker is easy to install and you
could do that yourself. The ARB is a harder install and you would probably
want someone to help with that. Where in SoCal are you? Come see us at
www.socalxj.com and join the yahoo group. Also you could join us at
www.naxja.org We have people that sell parts, there are a few of us that do
regearing and locker installs, tons of info for you.
Kevin in San Diego
"Rick" <rmeadows3@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
news:f79805fa.0410122311.3f3cf047@posting.google.c om...
> 2000 XJ, 3" Lift, 31" tires
> I am looking for info on what parts to buy and proper installation of
> said parts.
> I have replaced axels in 2 wheel drive vehs. so have knowledge and
> experience under the pan. Have a Warn 8000 wench and now would like
> to install the lockers.
>
> Rick
> Bass Players Drink Bass
Automatic locker?
Air operated locker?
electric locker?
I run an ARB locker in the rear (came with the axle I bought) and I run a
lockright in the front. The lockright locker is easy to install and you
could do that yourself. The ARB is a harder install and you would probably
want someone to help with that. Where in SoCal are you? Come see us at
www.socalxj.com and join the yahoo group. Also you could join us at
www.naxja.org We have people that sell parts, there are a few of us that do
regearing and locker installs, tons of info for you.
Kevin in San Diego
"Rick" <rmeadows3@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
news:f79805fa.0410122311.3f3cf047@posting.google.c om...
> 2000 XJ, 3" Lift, 31" tires
> I am looking for info on what parts to buy and proper installation of
> said parts.
> I have replaced axels in 2 wheel drive vehs. so have knowledge and
> experience under the pan. Have a Warn 8000 wench and now would like
> to install the lockers.
>
> Rick
> Bass Players Drink Bass
10-13-2004 | 11:36 AM
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Re: 00 ' XJ Adding Lockers - Whats' involved?
Hi Rick,
I presume from your 'socal' address that snow/ice driving is not an
issue, so you can probably use automatic lockers (as opposed to more
expensive selectables). The best auto-locker is the Detroit. This type
of locker replaces the ring gear carrier. That means the ring and pinion
must be set-up on install. This requires making four interdependent
adjustments to tolerances within thousandths of an inch:
http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html
http://www.thedirtforum.com/differential.htm
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/danaspicer.pdf
Professional R&P work is expensive. You can teach yourself to do R&P
setup, but be prepared to invest many hours on preparation and
installation and a few dollars on required tools like a deflection gage,
torque wrenches, ------er, etc. Also be prepared for failed gears or
bearings if you get something wrong.
If you plan on regearing when you install the lockers, then you might as
well go with full carrier lockers like the Detroit. On the other hand,
if you're happy with your gears and tire size, the easiest locker to
install is the 'lunch box' type that fits inside the carrier:
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/powertrax_tj/
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...trax_tj/front/
The Powertax No-Slip looks like the best value in a lunch box locker. It
is cheaper than a Detroit and plenty strong for your application. Note
that an auto locker in front can be intolerable if you need to use 4-hi
on snowy or slippery roads. It can also be a handful in 4-low when
trying to make tight turns. The No-Slip reportedly has little effect on
tracking in 2wd, but you may find yourself wanting to add manual lockout
hubs to the front end:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/swb/articles/warnhubs.htm
http://www.fourwheeler.com/howto/34047/
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Rick wrote:
> 2000 XJ, 3" Lift, 31" tires
> I am looking for info on what parts to buy and proper installation of
> said parts.
> I have replaced axels in 2 wheel drive vehs. so have knowledge and
> experience under the pan. Have a Warn 8000 wench and now would like
> to install the lockers.
>
> Rick
> Bass Players Drink Bass
I presume from your 'socal' address that snow/ice driving is not an
issue, so you can probably use automatic lockers (as opposed to more
expensive selectables). The best auto-locker is the Detroit. This type
of locker replaces the ring gear carrier. That means the ring and pinion
must be set-up on install. This requires making four interdependent
adjustments to tolerances within thousandths of an inch:
http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html
http://www.thedirtforum.com/differential.htm
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/danaspicer.pdf
Professional R&P work is expensive. You can teach yourself to do R&P
setup, but be prepared to invest many hours on preparation and
installation and a few dollars on required tools like a deflection gage,
torque wrenches, ------er, etc. Also be prepared for failed gears or
bearings if you get something wrong.
If you plan on regearing when you install the lockers, then you might as
well go with full carrier lockers like the Detroit. On the other hand,
if you're happy with your gears and tire size, the easiest locker to
install is the 'lunch box' type that fits inside the carrier:
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/powertrax_tj/
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...trax_tj/front/
The Powertax No-Slip looks like the best value in a lunch box locker. It
is cheaper than a Detroit and plenty strong for your application. Note
that an auto locker in front can be intolerable if you need to use 4-hi
on snowy or slippery roads. It can also be a handful in 4-low when
trying to make tight turns. The No-Slip reportedly has little effect on
tracking in 2wd, but you may find yourself wanting to add manual lockout
hubs to the front end:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/swb/articles/warnhubs.htm
http://www.fourwheeler.com/howto/34047/
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Rick wrote:
> 2000 XJ, 3" Lift, 31" tires
> I am looking for info on what parts to buy and proper installation of
> said parts.
> I have replaced axels in 2 wheel drive vehs. so have knowledge and
> experience under the pan. Have a Warn 8000 wench and now would like
> to install the lockers.
>
> Rick
> Bass Players Drink Bass
10-13-2004 | 11:36 AM
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Re: 00 ' XJ Adding Lockers - Whats' involved?
Hi Rick,
I presume from your 'socal' address that snow/ice driving is not an
issue, so you can probably use automatic lockers (as opposed to more
expensive selectables). The best auto-locker is the Detroit. This type
of locker replaces the ring gear carrier. That means the ring and pinion
must be set-up on install. This requires making four interdependent
adjustments to tolerances within thousandths of an inch:
http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html
http://www.thedirtforum.com/differential.htm
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/danaspicer.pdf
Professional R&P work is expensive. You can teach yourself to do R&P
setup, but be prepared to invest many hours on preparation and
installation and a few dollars on required tools like a deflection gage,
torque wrenches, ------er, etc. Also be prepared for failed gears or
bearings if you get something wrong.
If you plan on regearing when you install the lockers, then you might as
well go with full carrier lockers like the Detroit. On the other hand,
if you're happy with your gears and tire size, the easiest locker to
install is the 'lunch box' type that fits inside the carrier:
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/powertrax_tj/
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...trax_tj/front/
The Powertax No-Slip looks like the best value in a lunch box locker. It
is cheaper than a Detroit and plenty strong for your application. Note
that an auto locker in front can be intolerable if you need to use 4-hi
on snowy or slippery roads. It can also be a handful in 4-low when
trying to make tight turns. The No-Slip reportedly has little effect on
tracking in 2wd, but you may find yourself wanting to add manual lockout
hubs to the front end:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/swb/articles/warnhubs.htm
http://www.fourwheeler.com/howto/34047/
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Rick wrote:
> 2000 XJ, 3" Lift, 31" tires
> I am looking for info on what parts to buy and proper installation of
> said parts.
> I have replaced axels in 2 wheel drive vehs. so have knowledge and
> experience under the pan. Have a Warn 8000 wench and now would like
> to install the lockers.
>
> Rick
> Bass Players Drink Bass
I presume from your 'socal' address that snow/ice driving is not an
issue, so you can probably use automatic lockers (as opposed to more
expensive selectables). The best auto-locker is the Detroit. This type
of locker replaces the ring gear carrier. That means the ring and pinion
must be set-up on install. This requires making four interdependent
adjustments to tolerances within thousandths of an inch:
http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html
http://www.thedirtforum.com/differential.htm
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/danaspicer.pdf
Professional R&P work is expensive. You can teach yourself to do R&P
setup, but be prepared to invest many hours on preparation and
installation and a few dollars on required tools like a deflection gage,
torque wrenches, ------er, etc. Also be prepared for failed gears or
bearings if you get something wrong.
If you plan on regearing when you install the lockers, then you might as
well go with full carrier lockers like the Detroit. On the other hand,
if you're happy with your gears and tire size, the easiest locker to
install is the 'lunch box' type that fits inside the carrier:
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/powertrax_tj/
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...trax_tj/front/
The Powertax No-Slip looks like the best value in a lunch box locker. It
is cheaper than a Detroit and plenty strong for your application. Note
that an auto locker in front can be intolerable if you need to use 4-hi
on snowy or slippery roads. It can also be a handful in 4-low when
trying to make tight turns. The No-Slip reportedly has little effect on
tracking in 2wd, but you may find yourself wanting to add manual lockout
hubs to the front end:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/swb/articles/warnhubs.htm
http://www.fourwheeler.com/howto/34047/
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Rick wrote:
> 2000 XJ, 3" Lift, 31" tires
> I am looking for info on what parts to buy and proper installation of
> said parts.
> I have replaced axels in 2 wheel drive vehs. so have knowledge and
> experience under the pan. Have a Warn 8000 wench and now would like
> to install the lockers.
>
> Rick
> Bass Players Drink Bass
10-13-2004 | 11:36 AM
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Re: 00 ' XJ Adding Lockers - Whats' involved?
Hi Rick,
I presume from your 'socal' address that snow/ice driving is not an
issue, so you can probably use automatic lockers (as opposed to more
expensive selectables). The best auto-locker is the Detroit. This type
of locker replaces the ring gear carrier. That means the ring and pinion
must be set-up on install. This requires making four interdependent
adjustments to tolerances within thousandths of an inch:
http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html
http://www.thedirtforum.com/differential.htm
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/danaspicer.pdf
Professional R&P work is expensive. You can teach yourself to do R&P
setup, but be prepared to invest many hours on preparation and
installation and a few dollars on required tools like a deflection gage,
torque wrenches, ------er, etc. Also be prepared for failed gears or
bearings if you get something wrong.
If you plan on regearing when you install the lockers, then you might as
well go with full carrier lockers like the Detroit. On the other hand,
if you're happy with your gears and tire size, the easiest locker to
install is the 'lunch box' type that fits inside the carrier:
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/powertrax_tj/
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...trax_tj/front/
The Powertax No-Slip looks like the best value in a lunch box locker. It
is cheaper than a Detroit and plenty strong for your application. Note
that an auto locker in front can be intolerable if you need to use 4-hi
on snowy or slippery roads. It can also be a handful in 4-low when
trying to make tight turns. The No-Slip reportedly has little effect on
tracking in 2wd, but you may find yourself wanting to add manual lockout
hubs to the front end:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/swb/articles/warnhubs.htm
http://www.fourwheeler.com/howto/34047/
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Rick wrote:
> 2000 XJ, 3" Lift, 31" tires
> I am looking for info on what parts to buy and proper installation of
> said parts.
> I have replaced axels in 2 wheel drive vehs. so have knowledge and
> experience under the pan. Have a Warn 8000 wench and now would like
> to install the lockers.
>
> Rick
> Bass Players Drink Bass
I presume from your 'socal' address that snow/ice driving is not an
issue, so you can probably use automatic lockers (as opposed to more
expensive selectables). The best auto-locker is the Detroit. This type
of locker replaces the ring gear carrier. That means the ring and pinion
must be set-up on install. This requires making four interdependent
adjustments to tolerances within thousandths of an inch:
http://www.drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html
http://www.thedirtforum.com/differential.htm
http://xjeep.dyndns.org/danaspicer.pdf
Professional R&P work is expensive. You can teach yourself to do R&P
setup, but be prepared to invest many hours on preparation and
installation and a few dollars on required tools like a deflection gage,
torque wrenches, ------er, etc. Also be prepared for failed gears or
bearings if you get something wrong.
If you plan on regearing when you install the lockers, then you might as
well go with full carrier lockers like the Detroit. On the other hand,
if you're happy with your gears and tire size, the easiest locker to
install is the 'lunch box' type that fits inside the carrier:
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/powertrax_tj/
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...trax_tj/front/
The Powertax No-Slip looks like the best value in a lunch box locker. It
is cheaper than a Detroit and plenty strong for your application. Note
that an auto locker in front can be intolerable if you need to use 4-hi
on snowy or slippery roads. It can also be a handful in 4-low when
trying to make tight turns. The No-Slip reportedly has little effect on
tracking in 2wd, but you may find yourself wanting to add manual lockout
hubs to the front end:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/swb/articles/warnhubs.htm
http://www.fourwheeler.com/howto/34047/
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Rick wrote:
> 2000 XJ, 3" Lift, 31" tires
> I am looking for info on what parts to buy and proper installation of
> said parts.
> I have replaced axels in 2 wheel drive vehs. so have knowledge and
> experience under the pan. Have a Warn 8000 wench and now would like
> to install the lockers.
>
> Rick
> Bass Players Drink Bass
10-13-2004 | 01:37 PM
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Re: 00 ' XJ Adding Lockers - Whats' involved?
I heard ARB stands for Already Broke.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> Do some research and find out what kind of locker you want.
> Automatic locker?
> Air operated locker?
> electric locker?
>
> I run an ARB locker in the rear (came with the axle I bought) and I run a
> lockright in the front. The lockright locker is easy to install and you
> could do that yourself. The ARB is a harder install and you would probably
> want someone to help with that. Where in SoCal are you? Come see us at
> www.socalxj.com and join the yahoo group. Also you could join us at
> www.naxja.org We have people that sell parts, there are a few of us that do
> regearing and locker installs, tons of info for you.
> Kevin in San Diego
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> Do some research and find out what kind of locker you want.
> Automatic locker?
> Air operated locker?
> electric locker?
>
> I run an ARB locker in the rear (came with the axle I bought) and I run a
> lockright in the front. The lockright locker is easy to install and you
> could do that yourself. The ARB is a harder install and you would probably
> want someone to help with that. Where in SoCal are you? Come see us at
> www.socalxj.com and join the yahoo group. Also you could join us at
> www.naxja.org We have people that sell parts, there are a few of us that do
> regearing and locker installs, tons of info for you.
> Kevin in San Diego
10-13-2004 | 01:37 PM
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Re: 00 ' XJ Adding Lockers - Whats' involved?
I heard ARB stands for Already Broke.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> Do some research and find out what kind of locker you want.
> Automatic locker?
> Air operated locker?
> electric locker?
>
> I run an ARB locker in the rear (came with the axle I bought) and I run a
> lockright in the front. The lockright locker is easy to install and you
> could do that yourself. The ARB is a harder install and you would probably
> want someone to help with that. Where in SoCal are you? Come see us at
> www.socalxj.com and join the yahoo group. Also you could join us at
> www.naxja.org We have people that sell parts, there are a few of us that do
> regearing and locker installs, tons of info for you.
> Kevin in San Diego
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> Do some research and find out what kind of locker you want.
> Automatic locker?
> Air operated locker?
> electric locker?
>
> I run an ARB locker in the rear (came with the axle I bought) and I run a
> lockright in the front. The lockright locker is easy to install and you
> could do that yourself. The ARB is a harder install and you would probably
> want someone to help with that. Where in SoCal are you? Come see us at
> www.socalxj.com and join the yahoo group. Also you could join us at
> www.naxja.org We have people that sell parts, there are a few of us that do
> regearing and locker installs, tons of info for you.
> Kevin in San Diego
10-13-2004 | 01:37 PM
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Re: 00 ' XJ Adding Lockers - Whats' involved?
I heard ARB stands for Already Broke.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> Do some research and find out what kind of locker you want.
> Automatic locker?
> Air operated locker?
> electric locker?
>
> I run an ARB locker in the rear (came with the axle I bought) and I run a
> lockright in the front. The lockright locker is easy to install and you
> could do that yourself. The ARB is a harder install and you would probably
> want someone to help with that. Where in SoCal are you? Come see us at
> www.socalxj.com and join the yahoo group. Also you could join us at
> www.naxja.org We have people that sell parts, there are a few of us that do
> regearing and locker installs, tons of info for you.
> Kevin in San Diego
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Kevin in San Diego wrote:
>
> Do some research and find out what kind of locker you want.
> Automatic locker?
> Air operated locker?
> electric locker?
>
> I run an ARB locker in the rear (came with the axle I bought) and I run a
> lockright in the front. The lockright locker is easy to install and you
> could do that yourself. The ARB is a harder install and you would probably
> want someone to help with that. Where in SoCal are you? Come see us at
> www.socalxj.com and join the yahoo group. Also you could join us at
> www.naxja.org We have people that sell parts, there are a few of us that do
> regearing and locker installs, tons of info for you.
> Kevin in San Diego