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Walter Bushell 04-10-2004 05:34 PM

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 
In article <timberwoof-83F1D2.20230008042004@typhoon.sonic.net>,
Timberwoof <timberwoof@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote:

<snip>
> Well, the real ugly secret that they fundies don't want to let out is
> that while straight --- is good, gay --- is seven. See
> http://www.timberwoof.com/essays/gaysex.html


And irony meter that would trigger would trigger at a lot the Christians
are saying.

I mean worshiping a man who said, "Eat me or go to Hell." seriously is
seriously over the top in my book.

Walter Bushell 04-10-2004 05:34 PM

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 
In article <timberwoof-83F1D2.20230008042004@typhoon.sonic.net>,
Timberwoof <timberwoof@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote:

<snip>
> Well, the real ugly secret that they fundies don't want to let out is
> that while straight --- is good, gay --- is seven. See
> http://www.timberwoof.com/essays/gaysex.html


And irony meter that would trigger would trigger at a lot the Christians
are saying.

I mean worshiping a man who said, "Eat me or go to Hell." seriously is
seriously over the top in my book.

Walter Bushell 04-10-2004 05:34 PM

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 
In article <timberwoof-83F1D2.20230008042004@typhoon.sonic.net>,
Timberwoof <timberwoof@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote:

<snip>
> Well, the real ugly secret that they fundies don't want to let out is
> that while straight --- is good, gay --- is seven. See
> http://www.timberwoof.com/essays/gaysex.html


And irony meter that would trigger would trigger at a lot the Christians
are saying.

I mean worshiping a man who said, "Eat me or go to Hell." seriously is
seriously over the top in my book.

Mmhsb 04-10-2004 06:03 PM

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 
Funny thing gays once said they had a disease and shouldn't be discriminated
against cause they're born that way - now it seems the position is they are
gay by choice and not born with the 'gene' or lack of. Bible says
homosexuality is a Sin also that marriage is between a man & woman. So if
you believe in God & the Bible - there you go. If not it's still wrong -
face it! The body was obviously designed for male & female --- hence
opposite body parts --- so what's the argument about --- the proof is
evident.
"Timberwoof" <timberwoof@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote in message
news:timberwoof-7913A0.12433410042004@typhoon.sonic.net...
> In article <Xns94C77B38A58F2xomicron@0.0.0.3>,
> Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
>
> > Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
> > news:j33g70tv1ht94n3q5fl5ngiheoj1opci8j@4ax.com:
> >
> > > Lo, many moons past, on 10 Apr 2004 02:47:12 GMT, a stranger called by
> > > some Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> came forth and told this tale in
> > > alt.atheism
> > >
> > >> Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
> > >> news:pfge70hmhuqoft13s8f54927ncbmvj1rgt@4ax.com:
> > >>
> > >>>> Homosexuals can already get married.
> > >>>
> > >>> And in 1966, in Virginia, blacks could get married to anyone they
> > >>> wanted.. as long as they were black.
> > >>
> > >> Non sequitur.
> > >
> > > No, you state that gays can already get married (infering that you
> > > mean to members of the opposite ---.) This sort of restriction, based
> > > on race, was struck down by the Supreme Court.

> >
> > Yet sexual behavior has nothing to do with race.

>
> Despite ever-growing evidence to the contrary I will out of politeness
> assume that you insist on this arbitrary separation of arguments not out
> of malice but merely out of stupidity. Let me draw you a picture.
>
> The United States has long had lots of laws that limit for various
> reasons who could marry whom. For many decades in some states black
> people were not allowed to marry at all. Then there were laws that
> sought to prevent interracial marriages. California was the first state
> to repeal those laws. A mixed-race couple from Alabama who went to
> California to get married would be arrested and thrown in jail when they
> came back. America, the Land of the Free.
>
> Things have gotten better since then, and freedoms have, for the most
> part, increased. I have heard of no reports of gay couples getting
> arrested after coming home from places such as San Francisco while gay
> marriages were being done and getting married.
>
> The point is that the same arguments used to overthrow the miscegenation
> laws (that means laws against mixed-race marriage) -- that marriage is a
> right to be exercised by the two people involved and that the government
> shouldn't arbitrarily decide who can and who can't get married -- are
> also being applied to mixed---- marriage laws.
>
> Remove your blinders and have a look at what has happened in other
> countries since they legalized gay marriage. Why, several of them have
> already, after just a few short years, fallen into moral depravity,
> economic ruin, and utter chaos. I'm kidding.
>
> --
> Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
> http://www.timberwoof.com
> Baloney Detection Kit: http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html




Mmhsb 04-10-2004 06:03 PM

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 
Funny thing gays once said they had a disease and shouldn't be discriminated
against cause they're born that way - now it seems the position is they are
gay by choice and not born with the 'gene' or lack of. Bible says
homosexuality is a Sin also that marriage is between a man & woman. So if
you believe in God & the Bible - there you go. If not it's still wrong -
face it! The body was obviously designed for male & female --- hence
opposite body parts --- so what's the argument about --- the proof is
evident.
"Timberwoof" <timberwoof@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote in message
news:timberwoof-7913A0.12433410042004@typhoon.sonic.net...
> In article <Xns94C77B38A58F2xomicron@0.0.0.3>,
> Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
>
> > Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
> > news:j33g70tv1ht94n3q5fl5ngiheoj1opci8j@4ax.com:
> >
> > > Lo, many moons past, on 10 Apr 2004 02:47:12 GMT, a stranger called by
> > > some Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> came forth and told this tale in
> > > alt.atheism
> > >
> > >> Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
> > >> news:pfge70hmhuqoft13s8f54927ncbmvj1rgt@4ax.com:
> > >>
> > >>>> Homosexuals can already get married.
> > >>>
> > >>> And in 1966, in Virginia, blacks could get married to anyone they
> > >>> wanted.. as long as they were black.
> > >>
> > >> Non sequitur.
> > >
> > > No, you state that gays can already get married (infering that you
> > > mean to members of the opposite ---.) This sort of restriction, based
> > > on race, was struck down by the Supreme Court.

> >
> > Yet sexual behavior has nothing to do with race.

>
> Despite ever-growing evidence to the contrary I will out of politeness
> assume that you insist on this arbitrary separation of arguments not out
> of malice but merely out of stupidity. Let me draw you a picture.
>
> The United States has long had lots of laws that limit for various
> reasons who could marry whom. For many decades in some states black
> people were not allowed to marry at all. Then there were laws that
> sought to prevent interracial marriages. California was the first state
> to repeal those laws. A mixed-race couple from Alabama who went to
> California to get married would be arrested and thrown in jail when they
> came back. America, the Land of the Free.
>
> Things have gotten better since then, and freedoms have, for the most
> part, increased. I have heard of no reports of gay couples getting
> arrested after coming home from places such as San Francisco while gay
> marriages were being done and getting married.
>
> The point is that the same arguments used to overthrow the miscegenation
> laws (that means laws against mixed-race marriage) -- that marriage is a
> right to be exercised by the two people involved and that the government
> shouldn't arbitrarily decide who can and who can't get married -- are
> also being applied to mixed---- marriage laws.
>
> Remove your blinders and have a look at what has happened in other
> countries since they legalized gay marriage. Why, several of them have
> already, after just a few short years, fallen into moral depravity,
> economic ruin, and utter chaos. I'm kidding.
>
> --
> Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
> http://www.timberwoof.com
> Baloney Detection Kit: http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html




Mmhsb 04-10-2004 06:03 PM

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 
Funny thing gays once said they had a disease and shouldn't be discriminated
against cause they're born that way - now it seems the position is they are
gay by choice and not born with the 'gene' or lack of. Bible says
homosexuality is a Sin also that marriage is between a man & woman. So if
you believe in God & the Bible - there you go. If not it's still wrong -
face it! The body was obviously designed for male & female --- hence
opposite body parts --- so what's the argument about --- the proof is
evident.
"Timberwoof" <timberwoof@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote in message
news:timberwoof-7913A0.12433410042004@typhoon.sonic.net...
> In article <Xns94C77B38A58F2xomicron@0.0.0.3>,
> Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
>
> > Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
> > news:j33g70tv1ht94n3q5fl5ngiheoj1opci8j@4ax.com:
> >
> > > Lo, many moons past, on 10 Apr 2004 02:47:12 GMT, a stranger called by
> > > some Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> came forth and told this tale in
> > > alt.atheism
> > >
> > >> Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
> > >> news:pfge70hmhuqoft13s8f54927ncbmvj1rgt@4ax.com:
> > >>
> > >>>> Homosexuals can already get married.
> > >>>
> > >>> And in 1966, in Virginia, blacks could get married to anyone they
> > >>> wanted.. as long as they were black.
> > >>
> > >> Non sequitur.
> > >
> > > No, you state that gays can already get married (infering that you
> > > mean to members of the opposite ---.) This sort of restriction, based
> > > on race, was struck down by the Supreme Court.

> >
> > Yet sexual behavior has nothing to do with race.

>
> Despite ever-growing evidence to the contrary I will out of politeness
> assume that you insist on this arbitrary separation of arguments not out
> of malice but merely out of stupidity. Let me draw you a picture.
>
> The United States has long had lots of laws that limit for various
> reasons who could marry whom. For many decades in some states black
> people were not allowed to marry at all. Then there were laws that
> sought to prevent interracial marriages. California was the first state
> to repeal those laws. A mixed-race couple from Alabama who went to
> California to get married would be arrested and thrown in jail when they
> came back. America, the Land of the Free.
>
> Things have gotten better since then, and freedoms have, for the most
> part, increased. I have heard of no reports of gay couples getting
> arrested after coming home from places such as San Francisco while gay
> marriages were being done and getting married.
>
> The point is that the same arguments used to overthrow the miscegenation
> laws (that means laws against mixed-race marriage) -- that marriage is a
> right to be exercised by the two people involved and that the government
> shouldn't arbitrarily decide who can and who can't get married -- are
> also being applied to mixed---- marriage laws.
>
> Remove your blinders and have a look at what has happened in other
> countries since they legalized gay marriage. Why, several of them have
> already, after just a few short years, fallen into moral depravity,
> economic ruin, and utter chaos. I'm kidding.
>
> --
> Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
> http://www.timberwoof.com
> Baloney Detection Kit: http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html




Mmhsb 04-10-2004 06:03 PM

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 
Funny thing gays once said they had a disease and shouldn't be discriminated
against cause they're born that way - now it seems the position is they are
gay by choice and not born with the 'gene' or lack of. Bible says
homosexuality is a Sin also that marriage is between a man & woman. So if
you believe in God & the Bible - there you go. If not it's still wrong -
face it! The body was obviously designed for male & female --- hence
opposite body parts --- so what's the argument about --- the proof is
evident.
"Timberwoof" <timberwoof@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote in message
news:timberwoof-7913A0.12433410042004@typhoon.sonic.net...
> In article <Xns94C77B38A58F2xomicron@0.0.0.3>,
> Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
>
> > Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
> > news:j33g70tv1ht94n3q5fl5ngiheoj1opci8j@4ax.com:
> >
> > > Lo, many moons past, on 10 Apr 2004 02:47:12 GMT, a stranger called by
> > > some Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> came forth and told this tale in
> > > alt.atheism
> > >
> > >> Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
> > >> news:pfge70hmhuqoft13s8f54927ncbmvj1rgt@4ax.com:
> > >>
> > >>>> Homosexuals can already get married.
> > >>>
> > >>> And in 1966, in Virginia, blacks could get married to anyone they
> > >>> wanted.. as long as they were black.
> > >>
> > >> Non sequitur.
> > >
> > > No, you state that gays can already get married (infering that you
> > > mean to members of the opposite ---.) This sort of restriction, based
> > > on race, was struck down by the Supreme Court.

> >
> > Yet sexual behavior has nothing to do with race.

>
> Despite ever-growing evidence to the contrary I will out of politeness
> assume that you insist on this arbitrary separation of arguments not out
> of malice but merely out of stupidity. Let me draw you a picture.
>
> The United States has long had lots of laws that limit for various
> reasons who could marry whom. For many decades in some states black
> people were not allowed to marry at all. Then there were laws that
> sought to prevent interracial marriages. California was the first state
> to repeal those laws. A mixed-race couple from Alabama who went to
> California to get married would be arrested and thrown in jail when they
> came back. America, the Land of the Free.
>
> Things have gotten better since then, and freedoms have, for the most
> part, increased. I have heard of no reports of gay couples getting
> arrested after coming home from places such as San Francisco while gay
> marriages were being done and getting married.
>
> The point is that the same arguments used to overthrow the miscegenation
> laws (that means laws against mixed-race marriage) -- that marriage is a
> right to be exercised by the two people involved and that the government
> shouldn't arbitrarily decide who can and who can't get married -- are
> also being applied to mixed---- marriage laws.
>
> Remove your blinders and have a look at what has happened in other
> countries since they legalized gay marriage. Why, several of them have
> already, after just a few short years, fallen into moral depravity,
> economic ruin, and utter chaos. I'm kidding.
>
> --
> Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
> http://www.timberwoof.com
> Baloney Detection Kit: http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html




sno 04-10-2004 06:57 PM

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 

So because someone commits a sin you should shun him/her
or try to force him/her to not sin...???

Is that not a form of judging....which is reserved to the
Lord....?????

I do not believe that what you are saying/doing is in the
spirit of the bible....as it teaches that each persons
responsibility is to turn his life over to God...and
live his life as God wants..and to raise his children
to do the same....it is not our responsibility to judge....
nor force our fellow man to do what God wants....

In fact I believe someplace in the book it says something
against this very thing...<grin>....

A marriage in the biblical sense is a religious ceremony...
requesting God to give his help and blessing to those
involved and any children they may have....and the two
making a commitment in the eyes of God....

I believe what the gay's are requesting, is a secular thing,
requesting that the government, not God, give them the
same secular rights that any male/female
couple receives from the government....just because it is
called "marriage" by the state does not make it a marriage
in the biblical sense.....

If their committing to each other and their actions are wrong....
then that is between them and God....as long as what they do
does not harm others.....in the spirit of the bible you have
every right to tell your brothers, which is what they are...
that God says they are doing wrong....and that you
feel they are.....but by the bible you do not have the
right to force them to do right....

Hmmmm.....sounds like I am repeating myself....

Have faith in our Lord and don't worry about it...<grin>....

thank you for listening to my thoughts......sno

Mmhsb wrote:
>
> Funny thing gays once said they had a disease and shouldn't be discriminated
> against cause they're born that way - now it seems the position is they are
> gay by choice and not born with the 'gene' or lack of. Bible says
> homosexuality is a Sin also that marriage is between a man & woman. So if
> you believe in God & the Bible - there you go. If not it's still wrong -
> face it! The body was obviously designed for male & female --- hence
> opposite body parts --- so what's the argument about --- the proof is
> evident.
> "Timberwoof" <timberwoof@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote in message
> news:timberwoof-7913A0.12433410042004@typhoon.sonic.net...
> > In article <Xns94C77B38A58F2xomicron@0.0.0.3>,
> > Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
> >
> > > Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
> > > news:j33g70tv1ht94n3q5fl5ngiheoj1opci8j@4ax.com:
> > >
> > > > Lo, many moons past, on 10 Apr 2004 02:47:12 GMT, a stranger called by
> > > > some Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> came forth and told this tale in
> > > > alt.atheism
> > > >
> > > >> Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
> > > >> news:pfge70hmhuqoft13s8f54927ncbmvj1rgt@4ax.com:
> > > >>
> > > >>>> Homosexuals can already get married.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> And in 1966, in Virginia, blacks could get married to anyone they
> > > >>> wanted.. as long as they were black.
> > > >>
> > > >> Non sequitur.
> > > >
> > > > No, you state that gays can already get married (infering that you
> > > > mean to members of the opposite ---.) This sort of restriction, based
> > > > on race, was struck down by the Supreme Court.
> > >
> > > Yet sexual behavior has nothing to do with race.

> >
> > Despite ever-growing evidence to the contrary I will out of politeness
> > assume that you insist on this arbitrary separation of arguments not out
> > of malice but merely out of stupidity. Let me draw you a picture.
> >
> > The United States has long had lots of laws that limit for various
> > reasons who could marry whom. For many decades in some states black
> > people were not allowed to marry at all. Then there were laws that
> > sought to prevent interracial marriages. California was the first state
> > to repeal those laws. A mixed-race couple from Alabama who went to
> > California to get married would be arrested and thrown in jail when they
> > came back. America, the Land of the Free.
> >
> > Things have gotten better since then, and freedoms have, for the most
> > part, increased. I have heard of no reports of gay couples getting
> > arrested after coming home from places such as San Francisco while gay
> > marriages were being done and getting married.
> >
> > The point is that the same arguments used to overthrow the miscegenation
> > laws (that means laws against mixed-race marriage) -- that marriage is a
> > right to be exercised by the two people involved and that the government
> > shouldn't arbitrarily decide who can and who can't get married -- are
> > also being applied to mixed---- marriage laws.
> >
> > Remove your blinders and have a look at what has happened in other
> > countries since they legalized gay marriage. Why, several of them have
> > already, after just a few short years, fallen into moral depravity,
> > economic ruin, and utter chaos. I'm kidding.
> >
> > --
> > Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
> > http://www.timberwoof.com
> > Baloney Detection Kit: http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html


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sno 04-10-2004 06:57 PM

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 

So because someone commits a sin you should shun him/her
or try to force him/her to not sin...???

Is that not a form of judging....which is reserved to the
Lord....?????

I do not believe that what you are saying/doing is in the
spirit of the bible....as it teaches that each persons
responsibility is to turn his life over to God...and
live his life as God wants..and to raise his children
to do the same....it is not our responsibility to judge....
nor force our fellow man to do what God wants....

In fact I believe someplace in the book it says something
against this very thing...<grin>....

A marriage in the biblical sense is a religious ceremony...
requesting God to give his help and blessing to those
involved and any children they may have....and the two
making a commitment in the eyes of God....

I believe what the gay's are requesting, is a secular thing,
requesting that the government, not God, give them the
same secular rights that any male/female
couple receives from the government....just because it is
called "marriage" by the state does not make it a marriage
in the biblical sense.....

If their committing to each other and their actions are wrong....
then that is between them and God....as long as what they do
does not harm others.....in the spirit of the bible you have
every right to tell your brothers, which is what they are...
that God says they are doing wrong....and that you
feel they are.....but by the bible you do not have the
right to force them to do right....

Hmmmm.....sounds like I am repeating myself....

Have faith in our Lord and don't worry about it...<grin>....

thank you for listening to my thoughts......sno

Mmhsb wrote:
>
> Funny thing gays once said they had a disease and shouldn't be discriminated
> against cause they're born that way - now it seems the position is they are
> gay by choice and not born with the 'gene' or lack of. Bible says
> homosexuality is a Sin also that marriage is between a man & woman. So if
> you believe in God & the Bible - there you go. If not it's still wrong -
> face it! The body was obviously designed for male & female --- hence
> opposite body parts --- so what's the argument about --- the proof is
> evident.
> "Timberwoof" <timberwoof@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote in message
> news:timberwoof-7913A0.12433410042004@typhoon.sonic.net...
> > In article <Xns94C77B38A58F2xomicron@0.0.0.3>,
> > Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
> >
> > > Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
> > > news:j33g70tv1ht94n3q5fl5ngiheoj1opci8j@4ax.com:
> > >
> > > > Lo, many moons past, on 10 Apr 2004 02:47:12 GMT, a stranger called by
> > > > some Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> came forth and told this tale in
> > > > alt.atheism
> > > >
> > > >> Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
> > > >> news:pfge70hmhuqoft13s8f54927ncbmvj1rgt@4ax.com:
> > > >>
> > > >>>> Homosexuals can already get married.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> And in 1966, in Virginia, blacks could get married to anyone they
> > > >>> wanted.. as long as they were black.
> > > >>
> > > >> Non sequitur.
> > > >
> > > > No, you state that gays can already get married (infering that you
> > > > mean to members of the opposite ---.) This sort of restriction, based
> > > > on race, was struck down by the Supreme Court.
> > >
> > > Yet sexual behavior has nothing to do with race.

> >
> > Despite ever-growing evidence to the contrary I will out of politeness
> > assume that you insist on this arbitrary separation of arguments not out
> > of malice but merely out of stupidity. Let me draw you a picture.
> >
> > The United States has long had lots of laws that limit for various
> > reasons who could marry whom. For many decades in some states black
> > people were not allowed to marry at all. Then there were laws that
> > sought to prevent interracial marriages. California was the first state
> > to repeal those laws. A mixed-race couple from Alabama who went to
> > California to get married would be arrested and thrown in jail when they
> > came back. America, the Land of the Free.
> >
> > Things have gotten better since then, and freedoms have, for the most
> > part, increased. I have heard of no reports of gay couples getting
> > arrested after coming home from places such as San Francisco while gay
> > marriages were being done and getting married.
> >
> > The point is that the same arguments used to overthrow the miscegenation
> > laws (that means laws against mixed-race marriage) -- that marriage is a
> > right to be exercised by the two people involved and that the government
> > shouldn't arbitrarily decide who can and who can't get married -- are
> > also being applied to mixed---- marriage laws.
> >
> > Remove your blinders and have a look at what has happened in other
> > countries since they legalized gay marriage. Why, several of them have
> > already, after just a few short years, fallen into moral depravity,
> > economic ruin, and utter chaos. I'm kidding.
> >
> > --
> > Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
> > http://www.timberwoof.com
> > Baloney Detection Kit: http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html


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sno 04-10-2004 06:57 PM

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 

So because someone commits a sin you should shun him/her
or try to force him/her to not sin...???

Is that not a form of judging....which is reserved to the
Lord....?????

I do not believe that what you are saying/doing is in the
spirit of the bible....as it teaches that each persons
responsibility is to turn his life over to God...and
live his life as God wants..and to raise his children
to do the same....it is not our responsibility to judge....
nor force our fellow man to do what God wants....

In fact I believe someplace in the book it says something
against this very thing...<grin>....

A marriage in the biblical sense is a religious ceremony...
requesting God to give his help and blessing to those
involved and any children they may have....and the two
making a commitment in the eyes of God....

I believe what the gay's are requesting, is a secular thing,
requesting that the government, not God, give them the
same secular rights that any male/female
couple receives from the government....just because it is
called "marriage" by the state does not make it a marriage
in the biblical sense.....

If their committing to each other and their actions are wrong....
then that is between them and God....as long as what they do
does not harm others.....in the spirit of the bible you have
every right to tell your brothers, which is what they are...
that God says they are doing wrong....and that you
feel they are.....but by the bible you do not have the
right to force them to do right....

Hmmmm.....sounds like I am repeating myself....

Have faith in our Lord and don't worry about it...<grin>....

thank you for listening to my thoughts......sno

Mmhsb wrote:
>
> Funny thing gays once said they had a disease and shouldn't be discriminated
> against cause they're born that way - now it seems the position is they are
> gay by choice and not born with the 'gene' or lack of. Bible says
> homosexuality is a Sin also that marriage is between a man & woman. So if
> you believe in God & the Bible - there you go. If not it's still wrong -
> face it! The body was obviously designed for male & female --- hence
> opposite body parts --- so what's the argument about --- the proof is
> evident.
> "Timberwoof" <timberwoof@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote in message
> news:timberwoof-7913A0.12433410042004@typhoon.sonic.net...
> > In article <Xns94C77B38A58F2xomicron@0.0.0.3>,
> > Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
> >
> > > Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
> > > news:j33g70tv1ht94n3q5fl5ngiheoj1opci8j@4ax.com:
> > >
> > > > Lo, many moons past, on 10 Apr 2004 02:47:12 GMT, a stranger called by
> > > > some Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> came forth and told this tale in
> > > > alt.atheism
> > > >
> > > >> Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
> > > >> news:pfge70hmhuqoft13s8f54927ncbmvj1rgt@4ax.com:
> > > >>
> > > >>>> Homosexuals can already get married.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> And in 1966, in Virginia, blacks could get married to anyone they
> > > >>> wanted.. as long as they were black.
> > > >>
> > > >> Non sequitur.
> > > >
> > > > No, you state that gays can already get married (infering that you
> > > > mean to members of the opposite ---.) This sort of restriction, based
> > > > on race, was struck down by the Supreme Court.
> > >
> > > Yet sexual behavior has nothing to do with race.

> >
> > Despite ever-growing evidence to the contrary I will out of politeness
> > assume that you insist on this arbitrary separation of arguments not out
> > of malice but merely out of stupidity. Let me draw you a picture.
> >
> > The United States has long had lots of laws that limit for various
> > reasons who could marry whom. For many decades in some states black
> > people were not allowed to marry at all. Then there were laws that
> > sought to prevent interracial marriages. California was the first state
> > to repeal those laws. A mixed-race couple from Alabama who went to
> > California to get married would be arrested and thrown in jail when they
> > came back. America, the Land of the Free.
> >
> > Things have gotten better since then, and freedoms have, for the most
> > part, increased. I have heard of no reports of gay couples getting
> > arrested after coming home from places such as San Francisco while gay
> > marriages were being done and getting married.
> >
> > The point is that the same arguments used to overthrow the miscegenation
> > laws (that means laws against mixed-race marriage) -- that marriage is a
> > right to be exercised by the two people involved and that the government
> > shouldn't arbitrarily decide who can and who can't get married -- are
> > also being applied to mixed---- marriage laws.
> >
> > Remove your blinders and have a look at what has happened in other
> > countries since they legalized gay marriage. Why, several of them have
> > already, after just a few short years, fallen into moral depravity,
> > economic ruin, and utter chaos. I'm kidding.
> >
> > --
> > Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com>
> > http://www.timberwoof.com
> > Baloney Detection Kit: http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html


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