Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 

In article <BC9C1E8B.47E76%snit@nospam-cableone.net>, snit@nospam-cableone.net
says...
>
>
>"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in Xns94C67C4B7FDB7xomicron@0.0.0.3 on
>4/9/04 9:12 AM:
>
>> da_bender@hotmail.com (Dirk) wrote in
>> news:f1e3e17f.0404090630.690d483b@posting.google.c om:
>>
>>> Rather, it's almost exactly like the current fundie platform WRT gay
>>> marriage--"Ok, we'll permit you damned-to-Hell queers to live among us
>>> without having to worry quite so much about being firebombed, but
>>> we'll reserve the right to slight y'all in more subtle ways, like
>>> denying the respectability to enter into binding, lifelong personal
>>> committments. That way we can continue to have our cake and eat it
>>> too--bashing y'all for your promiscuity, *and* bashing y'all for
>>> wanting to commit to monogamy."
>>
>> Homosexuals can already get married.
>
>Just not to the person they want to. Are you advocating making a sham of
>the whole concept of marriage? I hold marriage, at least in a modern
>society, to a higher standard.
>

If the institution of marriage is so sacred as certain people
would like us to believe, then why do half of the marriages
end in divorce? The whole concept of marriage is somewhat of a fiction,
because of the divorce rate(at least in the US).
Let's get real.I would bet that those who oppose marriage of
gays, do so not to preserve the so called "concept of marriage", but
really oppose homosexulality. Homosexuality has always
been with us, and always will be. The homophobes need to
deal with thier own inner fears.

-Dennis

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 

In article <107e5injp4cgtdd@corp.supernews.com>,
Dennis <Howdy Doody@howdydoody.net> wrote:

> If the institution of marriage is so sacred as certain people
> would like us to believe, then why do half of the marriages
> end in divorce?

That is actually misleading.

While the number of divorces in a year might be half of the number of
marriages, the count is skewed by people who enter into multiple
marriages (and later divorces).

Half the people who marry do not necessarily end up in divorce; someone
on their third or fifth marriage has skewed the results.

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 

In article <107e5injp4cgtdd@corp.supernews.com>,
Dennis <Howdy Doody@howdydoody.net> wrote:

> If the institution of marriage is so sacred as certain people
> would like us to believe, then why do half of the marriages
> end in divorce?

That is actually misleading.

While the number of divorces in a year might be half of the number of
marriages, the count is skewed by people who enter into multiple
marriages (and later divorces).

Half the people who marry do not necessarily end up in divorce; someone
on their third or fifth marriage has skewed the results.

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 

In article <107e5injp4cgtdd@corp.supernews.com>,
Dennis <Howdy Doody@howdydoody.net> wrote:

> If the institution of marriage is so sacred as certain people
> would like us to believe, then why do half of the marriages
> end in divorce?

That is actually misleading.

While the number of divorces in a year might be half of the number of
marriages, the count is skewed by people who enter into multiple
marriages (and later divorces).

Half the people who marry do not necessarily end up in divorce; someone
on their third or fifth marriage has skewed the results.

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 

In article <107e5injp4cgtdd@corp.supernews.com>,
Dennis <Howdy Doody@howdydoody.net> wrote:

> If the institution of marriage is so sacred as certain people
> would like us to believe, then why do half of the marriages
> end in divorce?

That is actually misleading.

While the number of divorces in a year might be half of the number of
marriages, the count is skewed by people who enter into multiple
marriages (and later divorces).

Half the people who marry do not necessarily end up in divorce; someone
on their third or fifth marriage has skewed the results.

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 

In atl.general Relaxification <relaxification@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message news:<c53e8j$2os43j$1@ID-170553.news.uni-berlin.de>...
>> Timberwoof <timberwoof@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote in
>> news:timberwoof-776870.20035007042004@typhoon.sonic.net:
>>
>> > In article <c525mq$cah$1@news.wplus.net>, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Diogenes" <diogenes@sinope.gr> wrote in
>> >> news:4c9985cd7b0ca8b99e455da4d7dbb0fe@news.teranew s.com:
>> >>
>> >> > Xomicron wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36826
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Same---- adoption ban upheld
>> >> >> Federal court curbs Texas sodomy ruling, decries judicial activism
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> Posted: January 29, 2004
>> >> >> 1:00 a.m. Eastern
>> >> >>
>> >> >> A federal appeals court yesterday upheld Florida's ban on same----
>> >> >> adoptions, ruling the landmark Texas sodomy case does not establish
>> >> >> a right for homosexuals to parent displaced children.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The Florida legislature properly judged it is not in the best
>> >> >> interests of its displaced children to be adopted by individuals who
>> >> >> engage in voluntary homosexual activity, the Eleventh Circuit Court
>> >> >> of Appeals in Atlanta said.
>> >> >
>> >> > I assume the linuxfags will be moving out of Florida.
>> >>
>> >> Probably. With their source of new recuits gone, how will they swell
>> >> their ranks?
>> >
>> > Either you've got ---- for brains or you're liars. You're certainly
>> > spammers. Did you really think you could repeat those same, tired old
>> > discredited babblings about "recruitment" and not have someone point out
>> > your idiocy? Oh, sorry, that was rude. Well, if you're not ignorant on
>> > the subject than you're being malicious.
>>
>> I guess that explains why a common rallying cry at gay pride parades is
>> "10% is not enough, recruit, recruit, recruit!"
>
> I have been to the pride parade in Toronto, which attracts over a
> million people each year. I've never heard this "rallying cry."
>
> Have you? What gay pride events have you attended?
>
> Do you have a citation for it?

http://www.theonion.com/onion3326/ho...alrecruit.html

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 

In atl.general Relaxification <relaxification@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message news:<c53e8j$2os43j$1@ID-170553.news.uni-berlin.de>...
>> Timberwoof <timberwoof@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote in
>> news:timberwoof-776870.20035007042004@typhoon.sonic.net:
>>
>> > In article <c525mq$cah$1@news.wplus.net>, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Diogenes" <diogenes@sinope.gr> wrote in
>> >> news:4c9985cd7b0ca8b99e455da4d7dbb0fe@news.teranew s.com:
>> >>
>> >> > Xomicron wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36826
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Same---- adoption ban upheld
>> >> >> Federal court curbs Texas sodomy ruling, decries judicial activism
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> Posted: January 29, 2004
>> >> >> 1:00 a.m. Eastern
>> >> >>
>> >> >> A federal appeals court yesterday upheld Florida's ban on same----
>> >> >> adoptions, ruling the landmark Texas sodomy case does not establish
>> >> >> a right for homosexuals to parent displaced children.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The Florida legislature properly judged it is not in the best
>> >> >> interests of its displaced children to be adopted by individuals who
>> >> >> engage in voluntary homosexual activity, the Eleventh Circuit Court
>> >> >> of Appeals in Atlanta said.
>> >> >
>> >> > I assume the linuxfags will be moving out of Florida.
>> >>
>> >> Probably. With their source of new recuits gone, how will they swell
>> >> their ranks?
>> >
>> > Either you've got ---- for brains or you're liars. You're certainly
>> > spammers. Did you really think you could repeat those same, tired old
>> > discredited babblings about "recruitment" and not have someone point out
>> > your idiocy? Oh, sorry, that was rude. Well, if you're not ignorant on
>> > the subject than you're being malicious.
>>
>> I guess that explains why a common rallying cry at gay pride parades is
>> "10% is not enough, recruit, recruit, recruit!"
>
> I have been to the pride parade in Toronto, which attracts over a
> million people each year. I've never heard this "rallying cry."
>
> Have you? What gay pride events have you attended?
>
> Do you have a citation for it?

http://www.theonion.com/onion3326/ho...alrecruit.html

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 

In atl.general Relaxification <relaxification@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message news:<c53e8j$2os43j$1@ID-170553.news.uni-berlin.de>...
>> Timberwoof <timberwoof@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote in
>> news:timberwoof-776870.20035007042004@typhoon.sonic.net:
>>
>> > In article <c525mq$cah$1@news.wplus.net>, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Diogenes" <diogenes@sinope.gr> wrote in
>> >> news:4c9985cd7b0ca8b99e455da4d7dbb0fe@news.teranew s.com:
>> >>
>> >> > Xomicron wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36826
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Same---- adoption ban upheld
>> >> >> Federal court curbs Texas sodomy ruling, decries judicial activism
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> Posted: January 29, 2004
>> >> >> 1:00 a.m. Eastern
>> >> >>
>> >> >> A federal appeals court yesterday upheld Florida's ban on same----
>> >> >> adoptions, ruling the landmark Texas sodomy case does not establish
>> >> >> a right for homosexuals to parent displaced children.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The Florida legislature properly judged it is not in the best
>> >> >> interests of its displaced children to be adopted by individuals who
>> >> >> engage in voluntary homosexual activity, the Eleventh Circuit Court
>> >> >> of Appeals in Atlanta said.
>> >> >
>> >> > I assume the linuxfags will be moving out of Florida.
>> >>
>> >> Probably. With their source of new recuits gone, how will they swell
>> >> their ranks?
>> >
>> > Either you've got ---- for brains or you're liars. You're certainly
>> > spammers. Did you really think you could repeat those same, tired old
>> > discredited babblings about "recruitment" and not have someone point out
>> > your idiocy? Oh, sorry, that was rude. Well, if you're not ignorant on
>> > the subject than you're being malicious.
>>
>> I guess that explains why a common rallying cry at gay pride parades is
>> "10% is not enough, recruit, recruit, recruit!"
>
> I have been to the pride parade in Toronto, which attracts over a
> million people each year. I've never heard this "rallying cry."
>
> Have you? What gay pride events have you attended?
>
> Do you have a citation for it?

http://www.theonion.com/onion3326/ho...alrecruit.html

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 

In atl.general Relaxification <relaxification@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in message news:<c53e8j$2os43j$1@ID-170553.news.uni-berlin.de>...
>> Timberwoof <timberwoof@stimpberawoofm.com> wrote in
>> news:timberwoof-776870.20035007042004@typhoon.sonic.net:
>>
>> > In article <c525mq$cah$1@news.wplus.net>, Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Diogenes" <diogenes@sinope.gr> wrote in
>> >> news:4c9985cd7b0ca8b99e455da4d7dbb0fe@news.teranew s.com:
>> >>
>> >> > Xomicron wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36826
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Same---- adoption ban upheld
>> >> >> Federal court curbs Texas sodomy ruling, decries judicial activism
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> Posted: January 29, 2004
>> >> >> 1:00 a.m. Eastern
>> >> >>
>> >> >> A federal appeals court yesterday upheld Florida's ban on same----
>> >> >> adoptions, ruling the landmark Texas sodomy case does not establish
>> >> >> a right for homosexuals to parent displaced children.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The Florida legislature properly judged it is not in the best
>> >> >> interests of its displaced children to be adopted by individuals who
>> >> >> engage in voluntary homosexual activity, the Eleventh Circuit Court
>> >> >> of Appeals in Atlanta said.
>> >> >
>> >> > I assume the linuxfags will be moving out of Florida.
>> >>
>> >> Probably. With their source of new recuits gone, how will they swell
>> >> their ranks?
>> >
>> > Either you've got ---- for brains or you're liars. You're certainly
>> > spammers. Did you really think you could repeat those same, tired old
>> > discredited babblings about "recruitment" and not have someone point out
>> > your idiocy? Oh, sorry, that was rude. Well, if you're not ignorant on
>> > the subject than you're being malicious.
>>
>> I guess that explains why a common rallying cry at gay pride parades is
>> "10% is not enough, recruit, recruit, recruit!"
>
> I have been to the pride parade in Toronto, which attracts over a
> million people each year. I've never heard this "rallying cry."
>
> Have you? What gay pride events have you attended?
>
> Do you have a citation for it?

http://www.theonion.com/onion3326/ho...alrecruit.html

Re: [OT] No fresh meat for Florida faggots
 

"Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in Xns94C6A09B12602xomicron@0.0.0.1 on
4/9/04 12:47 PM:

> Snit <snit@nospam-cableone.net> wrote in
> news:BC9C4044.4800B%snit@nospam-cableone.net:
>
>> "Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in Xns94C697EAF4AABxomicron@0.0.0.1 on
>> 4/9/04 11:56 AM:
>>
>>> David Fritzinger <dfritzin@macNoSpam.com> wrote in
>>> news:dfritzin-C58307.08502609042004@orngca-news04.socal.rr.com:
>>>
>>>> In article <Xns94C6854973AA8xomicron@0.0.0.1>,
>>>> Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Snit <snit@nospam-cableone.net> wrote in
>>>>> news:BC9C1E8B.47E76%snit@nospam-cableone.net:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Xomicron" <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote in
>>>>>> Xns94C67C4B7FDB7xomicron@0.0.0.3 on 4/9/04 9:12 AM:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> da_bender@hotmail.com (Dirk) wrote in
>>>>>>> news:f1e3e17f.0404090630.690d483b@posting.google.c om:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rather, it's almost exactly like the current fundie platform WRT
>>>>>>>> gay marriage--"Ok, we'll permit you damned-to-Hell queers to live
>>>>>>>> among us without having to worry quite so much about being
>>>>>>>> firebombed, but we'll reserve the right to slight y'all in more
>>>>>>>> subtle ways, like denying the respectability to enter into
>>>>>>>> binding, lifelong personal committments. That way we can continue
>>>>>>>> to have our cake and eat it too--bashing y'all for your
>>>>>>>> promiscuity, *and* bashing y'all for wanting to commit to
>>>>>>>> monogamy."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Homosexuals can already get married.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just not to the person they want to.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's no law that says a person can marry whoever they want.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you advocating making a sham of the whole concept of marriage?
>>>>>
>>>>> Homosexuals are already trying to do that.
>>>>
>>>> Again, I have to ask (since you never answered the last time I did
>>>> so), what is so wrong with homosexual marriage? If the couple that has
>>>> a loving relationship next door happens to be, so Jo-anne and Mary
>>>> instead of John and Mary, how does this hurt you, or weaken your
>>>> marriage, assuming you are married?
>>>
>>> You think that love is the only reason for marriage? No wonder you
>>> liberals have such a shallow view of marriage.
>>
>> Nobody has suggested it is the only reason, but to deny it as an
>> important reason does not fit with the modern view of marriage.
>
> The "modern" view of marriage doesn't benefit anyone.

My wife and I both benefit from it, both socially and legally. Your
assertion is simply not correct.

> I don't understand how people in my grandparents' generation can get married
> hardly knowing each other but stay together a lifetime, yet now people get
> married after getting to know each other very well and then they end up
> getting divorced.

It is called freedom. There are downsides to it, you know...